1 00:00:24,390 --> 00:00:19,380 [Music] 2 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:24,400 you're in the paracast 3 00:00:29,189 --> 00:00:27,840 the gold standard of paranormal radio 4 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:29,199 and now 5 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:37,190 with gene with chris and a return visit 6 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:40,000 from our friend goggs makai we're back 7 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,200 on the power cast after shall we say one 8 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:45,760 of the more interesting episodes of the 9 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,559 show this is one where we got loads and 10 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:50,559 loads of for our messages 11 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:53,039 but we also got letters a lot emails 12 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,640 from people and the reaction is 13 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:56,879 predictably polarized let me give you a 14 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:58,879 couple of examples we have some people 15 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:01,199 who say they hated the show because we 16 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:02,399 had no 17 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:05,040 reason to attack this blake cousins i 18 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:07,200 mean let the guy talk or maybe he's not 19 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:09,520 worth the attention others saying yes 20 00:01:15,429 --> 00:01:12,080 that's the best form of the power cast 21 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:15,439 where they love the fact that we showed 22 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:17,600 this person no mercy 23 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,520 now speaking separately chris have you 24 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:21,439 gotten any personal messages about this 25 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,159 show you know i haven't jane but but you 26 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:26,640 know the the word attack you know i 27 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:29,520 really uh i i take exception to that i i 28 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:32,079 don't for a second think that we were 29 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:34,640 attacking blake we were firm we were 30 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:38,479 very decisive in our comments and in our 31 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:40,880 feelings about him and his site i did 32 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:43,520 get an interesting i think on on one of 33 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:46,079 the forum posts uh on the thread about 34 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:48,960 the show someone said you know i finally 35 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:50,960 got it i was listening to good 36 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:53,439 journalism people actually asking 37 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,600 follow-up questions um actually not 38 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,600 letting the guests slide and really 39 00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:00,000 probing and attempting to find out 40 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:02,479 exactly what the man's thinking is and 41 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:04,320 and i think that that's kind of the 42 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,560 approach that i felt that we were taking 43 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,160 sure we got a little bit we got a little 44 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:10,800 bit forceful we got a little bit pointed 45 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,560 but i really gene don't think in dogs 46 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:14,400 you can you can uh correct me if i'm 47 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:16,160 wrong here i really don't think we were 48 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:18,000 attacking the man i think we were really 49 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:18,959 asking 50 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:21,520 hard probing questions and when we 51 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:23,120 didn't get the kind of answers we wanted 52 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:26,879 we we kept at it cogs the show there was 53 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:28,959 as has just been mentioned there was a 54 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:31,520 lot of uh feedback it generated a lot of 55 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:34,239 discussion the positive feedback was 56 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:37,120 very positive indeed a couple of people 57 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:39,760 saying it was one of the best if not the 58 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,800 best show they'd heard of the power cast 59 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:44,000 i think the 60 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:44,800 um 61 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,280 the positive feedback was 62 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:49,280 harking to harking back to i think 63 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:51,280 people were thinking like yeah this is 64 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:52,959 what the power cast 65 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:55,680 is about this is how the show is 66 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:56,640 different 67 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:58,480 from other shows that cover the 68 00:03:02,309 --> 00:02:59,840 paranormal 69 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:02,319 i think the the positive messages 70 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:05,120 messages outweighed the negative ones 71 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:06,000 and 72 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:08,319 even the negative ones were you know 73 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:10,640 some people had a problem with the the 74 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:13,599 kind of style but i don't think it was 75 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:16,400 any more any different than you know 76 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:18,560 sunday morning political programmes 77 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:19,360 where 78 00:03:23,830 --> 00:03:20,720 uh you know 79 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:23,840 a politician's being evasive and the 80 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:26,239 interviewer is you know questioning 81 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,840 hopefully putting them into a corner 82 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:29,840 where they've got to answer that that's 83 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:32,640 what was going on and i think by the end 84 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:35,040 of the episode we you know we turned it 85 00:03:40,869 --> 00:03:37,599 around a little by uh you know extending 86 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:40,879 the olive branch um offering help or 87 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:43,840 um to put blake in touch with some some 88 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,480 new people and encouraging them to 89 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:48,720 you know to do more with what we all 90 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:51,599 agree is a good basis for something that 91 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:52,879 could be great 92 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:55,440 i think it was a great show i would have 93 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,319 you know 94 00:04:00,309 --> 00:03:58,560 had i not been taking part i think i 95 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:00,319 would have listened to that to the end 96 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:01,120 and 97 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:02,799 thought yeah that's what the podcast is 98 00:04:06,470 --> 00:04:04,640 about were there any questions you would 99 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:06,480 have liked to ask of blake that you 100 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:09,360 didn't ask yes and quite simply is where 101 00:04:14,149 --> 00:04:11,519 did he get the name from third phase of 102 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:14,159 moon and why does it not have a v in the 103 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:16,959 end third third phase of the moon or 104 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:18,959 just where does it come from probing 105 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:20,400 questions 106 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:22,800 no i think we kind of covered 107 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:25,199 what we really wanted to because what we 108 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:27,759 really wanted to ask him about was you 109 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:29,840 know how he does or does not 110 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:32,240 discriminate in his videos whether he 111 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:34,960 seems to care about that or not as chris 112 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:37,280 was saying you know is he an entertainer 113 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:39,919 like pt barnum or is he part of the 114 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:42,320 solution to no i think i think we got 115 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:45,280 out of blake in that interview um 116 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,160 what we saw were seeking to do one thing 117 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:50,400 here that i noticed very much so 118 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:53,440 is that in the responses we got from our 119 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,160 listeners one person said that he knew 120 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:58,720 somebody who would work with the cousins 121 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:00,639 brothers their twins blake and his 122 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,240 brother in faking a ufo picture not just 123 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:06,080 taking content from other people that he 124 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:08,000 was involved in actually 125 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:10,080 faking a photo now i asked for a 126 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:11,840 follow-up we haven't had one i don't 127 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:14,320 want to say with any follow-up that we 128 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:16,160 have a definitive 129 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,240 answer to that whether he's fake some of 130 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:20,400 these photos himself or not it may not 131 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:22,160 matter to him but that's just one issue 132 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:24,880 that came across as you know chris 133 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:27,039 offered to extend the olive branch to 134 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:29,759 blake he offered to try to help him 135 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,000 clean up his act be more discerning 136 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:34,560 about the photos he posted but there in 137 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:37,360 lies a tale and the answer may have been 138 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,479 predictable 139 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:41,039 but it was also predictably childish 140 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:42,880 chris maybe detail the correspondence 141 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:45,840 you had with blake well again i i need 142 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:48,800 to underscore what god's just said about 143 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:51,120 about third phase of moon 144 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:54,880 third phase of moon 145 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:56,880 i just want to underscore that it is a 146 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:59,680 good idea um he has managed to 147 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:01,680 put together an interesting youtube 148 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:04,960 channel that is vacuum cleanering up 149 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:06,400 all sorts of footage from around the 150 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:07,360 world 151 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:09,840 as more people become aware 152 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:11,280 of the channel 153 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:12,960 more people are attempting to come up 154 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:15,600 with good hoax videos i'm sure but but 155 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:18,400 also there's that possibility of really 156 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,120 stumbling on some real i think 157 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:23,919 potentially crucial footage um with the 158 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:25,680 ad band of cell phones 159 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:27,280 the cameras on these phones are getting 160 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,319 better 161 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,199 uh video technology is becoming more and 162 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:33,440 more affordable there's more people 163 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:34,800 armed with 164 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:36,080 potential 165 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:38,400 instruments of documentation on real 166 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:39,919 sightings and 167 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:43,280 if we set aside the vast majority of his 168 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:47,440 videos which uh in my estimation or 169 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:48,960 not only hoaxes some of them are 170 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,560 absolutely just silly 171 00:06:55,590 --> 00:06:52,639 if we set aside those and and we 172 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:55,600 concentrate on the good stuff i think 173 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:57,840 that it really would serve the 174 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:00,639 ufological community if we could get 175 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:02,560 that footage into somebody's hands and i 176 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:04,160 and i did offer 177 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:06,080 to put him in touch with real video 178 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:07,039 analysts 179 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:10,000 and also uh put it out there for um a 180 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:11,840 group of analysts to take a look at some 181 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:15,199 of these images and video clips and and 182 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:16,720 try to determine 183 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:18,160 some science 184 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:18,880 but 185 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:21,680 unfortunately uh blake does not really 186 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:24,560 respond well to criticism or 187 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:27,440 implied or or just you know perceived i 188 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,800 think and he had a real difficult time 189 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:33,039 coming from a place of of really uh 190 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:34,800 working as a team player with the 191 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:37,120 ufological community it's obvious he's a 192 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,319 goat alone 193 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:40,800 kind of operation with his brother it 194 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:43,039 wouldn't surprise me in the least if he 195 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:45,680 is with his knowledge of after effects 196 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:48,639 and and supposed knowledge with avid 197 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:51,039 which of course is the go-to uh digital 198 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:54,080 video special effects platform uh in 199 00:07:57,270 --> 00:07:55,039 video 200 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:57,280 and film for that matter uh it wouldn't 201 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:59,360 surprise me at least if he is behind a 202 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:01,680 good many of these uh of these hoaxes or 203 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:03,199 at least some of them it wouldn't 204 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:05,199 surprise me in the least but 205 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:07,520 but my attempts at it you know creating 206 00:08:09,909 --> 00:08:08,960 a dialogue 207 00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:09,919 and 208 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:12,560 offering my help in any way that i can 209 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:15,120 uh was initially met with some he kind 210 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,800 of ignored it really 211 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,120 and then he kind of grudgingly said well 212 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:21,599 yeah how about this one check this out 213 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:24,960 he sent he sent along a clip from 214 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:27,280 a guy down in fort myers florida 215 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:28,319 which 216 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:29,759 you know again with the youtube 217 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:31,280 compression it's very difficult to 218 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:34,240 analyze in any videos there and i said 219 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:35,440 well you know i'd like to see an 220 00:08:40,070 --> 00:08:37,680 uncompressed copy of this and he he sent 221 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:40,080 me the link to the guy's own youtube 222 00:08:45,509 --> 00:08:42,320 channel which again was just viewing 223 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:45,519 another piece of compressed video and 224 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:47,360 when i said look you know 225 00:08:51,509 --> 00:08:48,959 please send us along something 226 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:51,519 uncompressed he went ballistic and 227 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:53,839 called me a troll and i'm never gonna 228 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,920 speak to you again and you know he 229 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:57,920 sounded like um i don't know a petulant 230 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:00,320 12 year old or something 231 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,000 i didn't know about that 232 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:03,680 yeah well it's all it's all up on the 233 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:06,399 board you gotta wonder if blake is just 234 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:09,279 thinking um he's just thinking if it 235 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:12,320 ain't broke don't fix it in in his mind 236 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:14,320 third phase of moon is working it's 237 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,720 working very well and maybe he just 238 00:09:20,389 --> 00:09:18,320 thinks you know he just doesn't need to 239 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:20,399 mess with it because maybe he doesn't 240 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:23,200 really care about no he's making too 241 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:25,200 much money to care in fact 242 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:27,600 somebody pointed out uh earlier 243 00:09:32,389 --> 00:09:29,720 in the day here on 244 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:32,399 forum.theparacast.com if you go to the 245 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:33,680 about the show 246 00:09:37,350 --> 00:09:36,240 thread and bank you'll find this um very 247 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:37,360 extensive 248 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:39,279 thread that's all almost i think up to 249 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:42,160 200 posts it'll be a lot more by the way 250 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:44,320 when our listeners get to hear the show 251 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:46,399 we have gene and chris 252 00:10:01,750 --> 00:09:59,190 [Music] 253 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:01,760 say neighbors when your entire team can 254 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:04,080 get together it's just amazing what they 255 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:06,800 can accomplish projects that take weeks 256 00:10:11,990 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community forums at 356 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:19,840 forum.theparacast.com 357 00:14:23,430 --> 00:14:21,360 [Music] 358 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:23,440 on the power cast with gene and chris 359 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:25,279 and goggs we're talking about last 360 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:28,560 week's show which featured blake cousins 361 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:31,040 half of the cousins brothers productions 362 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,920 and they're engaged in putting up a ufo 363 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:35,360 photo channel 364 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:36,240 on 365 00:14:40,110 --> 00:14:39,360 youtube and somebody in our forums over 366 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:40,120 at 367 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:41,680 forum.powercast.com 368 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:44,320 in the thread about blake cousins did 369 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:46,560 some financial estimates 370 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:48,000 yeah that's that's what i was going to 371 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:50,959 point out and and if those estimates are 372 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,040 even close to being 373 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,000 true and uh a sense of 374 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,440 what his 375 00:15:01,350 --> 00:14:59,680 channel is potentially 376 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:01,360 producing in terms of cash flow the 377 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:02,880 guy's got a real good idea and he's 378 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:04,560 making uh he's making some pretty good 379 00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:05,440 money 380 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:08,079 at uh presenting hoax videos 381 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:10,160 uh with this mock seriousness of them 382 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:12,720 being real and actually that 383 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:15,040 i think a vast majority of them are fake 384 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:16,800 what would really hurt 385 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:17,920 is if 386 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:20,720 his uh if third phase of moon actually 387 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:23,680 turned out to be the outlet for the 388 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:25,920 smoking gun should it ever happen can 389 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:28,800 you imagine the irony 390 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:31,279 oh please yes the problem is you have so 391 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:32,720 much garbage there 392 00:15:37,750 --> 00:15:35,600 that even if the smoking gun was there 393 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,760 it wouldn't be noticed it would be 394 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:39,519 hiding in plain sight 395 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:42,000 yeah yeah and that's a problem gene uh i 396 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:42,720 think 397 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:45,839 you know the the observation that uh 20 398 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,079 you know out of out of 20 videos i mean 399 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:50,000 this this observation was made by one of 400 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,320 his talking heads in in his vid video 401 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,480 about ufo sightings in hawaii they said 402 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:56,399 if one out of 20 403 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:57,440 is real 404 00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:00,160 uh and the others are all red herrings 405 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:02,560 you know who's going to notice and i 406 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,160 think that's a point well taken i think 407 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:06,959 that this uh this is a really 408 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:09,440 interesting uh net that he's casting out 409 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,240 there 410 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:12,000 but without some sort of 411 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,440 analytical process uh that's that's well 412 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:18,000 founded and really i think uh 413 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:20,639 professional in its in its uh in its 414 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:24,000 protocols and and methodology i think 415 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:25,759 without that uh 416 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:28,000 the real thing could happen and um it 417 00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:29,600 might just get tossed out as oh well 418 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:31,680 here here comes another fake video from 419 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:33,920 third phase of moon well if you want to 420 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:35,360 obscure the truth that's one way of 421 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,959 doing it now just to give a little bit 422 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,360 of background which is why i even raised 423 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,360 the suspicion the third phase of moon is 424 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:43,519 doing the fakery in some cases 425 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,600 is that if you look at the cousin's 426 00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:47,759 brother's claim to fame before that it 427 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:50,639 was producing a star wars 428 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:52,160 fan movie 429 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,240 starring blake's three-year-old son or 430 00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:56,480 something like that 431 00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,600 his nephew okay regardless 432 00:17:03,829 --> 00:17:02,240 they're into making science fiction but 433 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,839 you find after that and that happened 434 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,360 like 10 years ago 435 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:07,120 there's nothing more about 436 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,280 what blake cousins did 437 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,520 very little more about his work his 438 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:13,919 content or anything just what he did 439 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,959 10 years ago so maybe this is a last 440 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,799 hurrah because we're not talking about a 441 00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,319 20 year old here 442 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,839 looking at his background when he 443 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,280 graduated high school and everything 444 00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:25,360 else based on the news stories it's a 445 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,559 guy about 40. so they're twins two guys 446 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:30,799 about 40 years of age 447 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,600 and i guess he's trying to find 448 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:35,840 or solve what would be almost a midlife 449 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:38,160 crisis find something to do this is his 450 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:40,160 full-time job 451 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,720 if third phase of moon disappears 452 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:43,840 tomorrow 453 00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:46,160 he's out of work so you've reminded me 454 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,559 of a point i brought up last week when i 455 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:50,240 was um you know throwing out the 456 00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:51,520 question about 457 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:54,320 just in general fake ufo videos 458 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,360 how long does it take to create a good 459 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,000 fake video and if if we are thinking 460 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:02,720 that uh third phase of moon is creating 461 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,320 anyway any how how many could 462 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:08,960 a couple of guys churn out 463 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:11,760 uh on a weekly basis i admit i've got no 464 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:14,000 idea how long it would take to film some 465 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,200 outside footage and then add in 466 00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:19,600 uh some cgi um 467 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:21,600 i imagine there are ways of 468 00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:23,840 incorporating cgi with you know bad 469 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,559 camera shake which i would 470 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,720 certainly in the old days of just vhs 471 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:30,880 camcorders and stuff you you kind of get 472 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:34,080 a feel that uh a video is probably more 473 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,000 authentic if it's 474 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:38,559 not very stable you know uh in terms of 475 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:39,600 the uh 476 00:18:43,909 --> 00:18:41,520 the object you're looking at matching up 477 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:43,919 with them the motion of the camera chris 478 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:46,480 and i'm sure you know um more about this 479 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:48,799 than idea but but you know what does it 480 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,120 take to create these videos if we were 481 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:53,360 to just choose one at random and think 482 00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:55,600 so could they be churning them out or 483 00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:57,679 again who is 484 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,080 well the the easiest ones obviously are 485 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,720 just anomalous lights in the sky 486 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,160 at night 487 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,240 those are the easiest to produce 488 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:08,160 um some of these glowing balls that they 489 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,160 have going over the ocean those are 490 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,880 fairly simple to produce 491 00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,120 what gives them away is is is the light 492 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:17,360 doesn't shimmer through the atmosphere 493 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,520 and i mentioned this to him on the um 494 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:21,919 on the show last week that uh 495 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,400 the one particular clip that he shows 496 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,640 a light ball flying out below the level 497 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,080 of the camera the camera's on a cliff 498 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,679 looking down at the ocean 499 00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,120 the light bulb 500 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,600 does not glimmer it doesn't shimmer 501 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:35,840 you you can tell that the light is not 502 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:37,840 actually going through a half a miles 503 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,400 worth of atmosphere that's 504 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240 obviously moisture laden being over the 505 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,480 ocean uh that would be that would give 506 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:47,039 the the light a roiling sort of uh 507 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:48,160 glittering 508 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:50,799 effect to it and uh the light is just 509 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,799 static it doesn't it doesn't change at 510 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:54,160 all uh 511 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,760 as if it was coherent light very close 512 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,039 to the camera and 513 00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,520 and that that to me is a dead giveaway 514 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:01,120 and he's so enamored with that 515 00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,240 particular hoaxed uh clip that i think 516 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:06,480 he used it four or five times in his 50 517 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:08,720 minute piece which is 518 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,440 pretty interesting in and of itself but 519 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:13,200 but i think that you know basically it 520 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:16,559 depends gogs on you know how much actual 521 00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:18,799 uh morphing the object does in other 522 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,120 words if the object is is tipping or or 523 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,200 showing you a different side if it's if 524 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,000 it's revolving if the object is actually 525 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,280 doing 526 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,679 motion in in and of itself 527 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,280 that makes it more difficult and more 528 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:36,000 time consuming to produce 529 00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:38,240 simple lighting effects are fairly easy 530 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:41,200 and you can really crank them out uh 531 00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,120 very very quickly and it's the animation 532 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,159 type clips uh the one of the uh hokie 533 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,559 saucer coming down off the wing 534 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:52,880 of an airliner uh that one would take a 535 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,919 little time uh the one that's in there 536 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:56,799 of the 537 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:00,000 largest ufo ever filmed um 538 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,600 that one would take some time but but 539 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,039 you'll notice 540 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,000 the hoax videos that seem to be most 541 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,720 impressive are the ones that have 542 00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,559 that are the grainiest that have the 543 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,440 least actual video quality to them 544 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,600 and uh and i think part of that's done 545 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:17,760 on purpose to hide flaws in the in the 546 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,080 actual animation or in the actual 547 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,400 special effects that are going on 548 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:24,720 we're in the age of high def video and 549 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,760 uh i i'm seeing a lot of poorly um 550 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,679 just the signal to noise ratio and a lot 551 00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:33,600 of the footage in and of itself is 552 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:35,120 suspicious so 553 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,280 you know it it totally depends gogs on 554 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,120 how much animation is there and how much 555 00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:41,440 actual motion that the object is doing 556 00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:44,559 uh on its own in relation to uh whatever 557 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,799 scene it's it's being displayed in you 558 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,880 know i kind of wonder chris whether they 559 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,880 should just go back to throwing models 560 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:52,640 up in the air and shooting them you know 561 00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,120 if we go back to one of the hoaxes that 562 00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:57,280 jim mosley and gray marker pulled back i 563 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,720 guess in the 1960s or 1970s this lost 564 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,480 creek ufo 565 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:03,760 that's how it was done you know with a 566 00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,640 physical object 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the state 697 00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,000 of ufo research that if a popular 698 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,880 channel showing ufo photos 699 00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,720 is mostly showing fakes 700 00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,799 what does it bring out on the part of 701 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:35,840 people 702 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,400 i mean if there was no channel like that 703 00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:40,559 online would people be inclined to make 704 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:44,159 as many fake videos as they do guys yeah 705 00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,679 what about the fact that even blake 706 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,000 admits himself you know the number of 707 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,039 thumbs down his videos are getting so 708 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,919 perhaps the perhaps a lot of the viewers 709 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,159 are a bit more discerning than maybe 710 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,480 we've been giving them credit for us and 711 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:00,880 assuming you know anyone who subscribes 712 00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,240 to third phase of moon you know doesn't 713 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:06,640 doesn't really have a clue but perhaps 714 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,080 there are many subscribers who who are 715 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,159 just looking for the odd nucket nugget 716 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,720 but they are willing to you know make it 717 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:16,799 to make it known that they think you 718 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,440 know that's a lot of load of bull so 719 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:21,919 you're going to wonder what what the uh 720 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:24,720 the demographic of his viewership his 721 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,880 subscribers is 722 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,480 well the thing would be also if you're 723 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,559 running a site like that you'd want to 724 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,279 know who your users are because if 725 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,520 you're trying to pander to them if you 726 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,279 don't give them what they want you're 727 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,279 not going to make the money and we were 728 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,520 talking briefly about this before but he 729 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:43,360 could earn a really high salary from 730 00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,399 that place 731 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,399 yeah yeah absolutely and 732 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,840 you know another thing that i've i've 733 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:50,320 noticed in the videos is quite a bit of 734 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,520 bad acting 735 00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,520 oftentimes the hoax video 736 00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:54,559 is 737 00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,159 it doesn't matter how well it's done if 738 00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,640 there's people talking in the frame or 739 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,120 or acting in the frame oftentimes that's 740 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,320 the dead giveaway just by the way people 741 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,080 uh who are actually doing the supposed 742 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:07,679 filming and people around them are 743 00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:08,880 responding 744 00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,000 this uh joe uh i forget his last name 745 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,559 the guy from fort myers has some pretty 746 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,159 interesting footage i think he's getting 747 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,000 real stuff down there i don't believe 748 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,600 it's extra mundane 749 00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,080 it's right by a i think an air force 750 00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,679 base or a navy 751 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,799 a navy field down there um 752 00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,720 and i think that there's uh there's some 753 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:30,399 interesting stuff being put up by the 754 00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,159 military that's all lit up like a 755 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,520 christmas tree 756 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,159 that uh he may be inadvertently filming 757 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,840 and and because it doesn't conform to 758 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,559 your conventional lighting arrays on on 759 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,120 planes it does appear unusual 760 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:44,880 i could tell 761 00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,840 by the reaction of people around the 762 00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,279 cameraman 763 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:51,840 that they were seeing a real object out 764 00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:54,960 over the gulf there and that oftentimes 765 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:57,279 is the is the the dead giveaway i think 766 00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:58,960 it doesn't matter how good the special 767 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:01,600 effects are or how impressive the video 768 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,320 is 769 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,000 if the people that are supposedly 770 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,320 experiencing the thing real time 771 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,399 are bad actors it's you're going to be 772 00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:09,600 able to tell 773 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,399 yeah 774 00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,200 first acting you know comes out really 775 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,679 easy you just get a sense that you know 776 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,080 somebody's it's like i don't know if you 777 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,080 have an america but in the uk we've got 778 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,240 a show called you've been framed it's 779 00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,480 just where basically the viewers send in 780 00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,679 any little 781 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,600 funny video clips they may have made 782 00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:29,600 around the home of animals kids or 783 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,120 whatever and they were getting paid 250 784 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:35,760 pounds per clip regardless of how long 785 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:38,799 it is and that that just made so many 786 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,279 people send in these fake videos well 787 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,360 we're faking that they were forcing 788 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,440 accidents to happen and stuff and it's 789 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,080 so plainly obvious when it's happening 790 00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,640 but they still pay the 250 quid 791 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,559 so but yeah i take chris's point that 792 00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,159 yeah i can i i can see that that you you 793 00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,880 know when people are acting because most 794 00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:00,000 people 795 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,799 just reacting naturally to something 796 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,799 that comes through yeah 797 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,559 well another thing is i think a lot of 798 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:10,000 these people 799 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:10,720 i 800 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:38,159 way 801 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,279 to let's say do a paracast uh youtube 802 00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:43,840 channel and have it be instructional as 803 00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,399 well as as in informational 804 00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,000 and in 805 00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:50,559 you know putting out videos that we feel 806 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,840 past muster it's one thing to 807 00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,159 shoot a video and it doesn't a good 808 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,320 video it's another thing to actually 809 00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,799 gather witnesses names uh report the 810 00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:02,000 sighting to 811 00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,720 uh 812 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,640 peter davenport the national ufo 813 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,240 reporting center or 814 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:08,960 uh to the local mufon 815 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:10,640 section director 816 00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:12,960 it's the follow-up work it's the 817 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,279 cooperative witness testimony it's 818 00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,000 filing the reports it's calling the 819 00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:20,080 airport calling the military bases 820 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,519 getting people to go on the record and 821 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:23,279 say no that's not us 822 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,760 that's how good investigations uh are 823 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,480 are handled and the average person who's 824 00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:29,840 out there with a video camera looking 825 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,039 for ufos i don't think really has the 826 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,559 the education 827 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,640 they don't have the uh understanding 828 00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:38,240 that there's people out there willing to 829 00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,919 help them and that there's a actual 830 00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,279 proper way to 831 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,519 document these types of uh these types 832 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:48,000 of sightings and as the technology gets 833 00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:49,200 more 834 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,000 you know 835 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,080 less expensive and more 836 00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:54,000 we get more quality in the technology 837 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,440 we're going to be seeing more and more i 838 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,760 think quality videos coming out and it's 839 00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:59,760 that understanding that educational 840 00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,799 process 841 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,039 that the person has undergone 842 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,200 that allows them to properly document 843 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,840 and do a you know ad hoc on the spot 844 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,760 investigation uh gathering names 845 00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,600 gathering witnesses making sure other 846 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:13,679 people who are taking pictures uh that 847 00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,000 their visual evidence is being 848 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,080 is being put into a package 849 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,440 this is the kind of thing that i was 850 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,919 trying to get blake you know lead him to 851 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,480 that place of of actually doing good 852 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:26,799 field work and doing good investigative 853 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,360 work and educating his uh his vast 854 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,720 viewership 855 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:32,880 and unfortunately he um 856 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,880 he just called me a troll and said i'm 857 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,279 never going to talk to you again 858 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,600 am i right in thinking that uh like move 859 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,880 on 860 00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,279 if for people if they if they become 861 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,679 members of mufon do they provide 862 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:47,600 some modicum of training about 863 00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:51,440 investigation yeah investigating yeah 864 00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,279 so how and do you have to join mufon as 865 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,840 an investigator or where can the average 866 00:34:02,470 --> 00:33:59,679 person go to 867 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,480 pick up information about hints and tips 868 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,960 about yeah you need to ask this person 869 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,399 find out the weather 870 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,800 from these people and how to rule out 871 00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,240 this and that 872 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,159 because i mean i don't know for 873 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,800 a fact but i never see ufos 874 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,399 well i'll tell you let me give you the 875 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:17,599 information 876 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,200 about mufon membership okay now 877 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:23,760 mufon has a hard copy journal and 878 00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,560 they've also got an electronic version 879 00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,839 so if you want to save money the 880 00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:29,359 cheapest version is the electronic 881 00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,399 journal 882 00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:32,879 it's 35 dollars a year 30 dollars for 883 00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:33,760 those 884 00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,440 65 or older or 18 and younger 885 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,359 okay but there is a separate 886 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,599 investigator's manual which appears to 887 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:43,359 be thirty five dollars a copy and i have 888 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,560 to check that 889 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,599 and that teaches you how to 890 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,760 supposedly do investigations of ufo 891 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,839 sightings now it doesn't mean you're 892 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,760 getting a degree 893 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,960 in 894 00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:57,040 ufo research 895 00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,680 but at least it's something which sets 896 00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,200 down 897 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:03,280 ways to 898 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,960 do your stuff 899 00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,720 it's not something you just make it up 900 00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,400 it is something that has solid 901 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,839 information in it 902 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,920 yeah even just as an aid memoir you know 903 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:14,400 um there are many professions and jobs 904 00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:17,599 where people have to refer to manuals 905 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,480 you know 906 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:21,760 pilots airline pilots they know so much 907 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,839 about flying in their aircraft but there 908 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,440 are still times when they have to pull 909 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,160 out an actual book or something and read 910 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,160 checklists and instructions and there's 911 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:33,040 nothing wrong with having something to 912 00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,800 you know remind you point you in the 913 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:36,560 right direction 914 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,040 i'm all for it if i actually lived in a 915 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,280 place with clearer skies and i thought i 916 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,000 could uh you know spot something i would 917 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,560 certainly be interested in in doing it 918 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:48,720 correctly let me just correct that by 919 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,280 the way i just looked up on mufon for 920 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:53,200 non-members 921 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:54,640 the 922 00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,440 mufon field investigators manual is 923 00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,359 dollars a copy 924 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,520 and i have to look up what you get it's 925 00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,000 fifty dollars a copy for members 926 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,000 okay how much and do you have to pay for 927 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,839 membership the membership like i said 928 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,760 starts at thirty five dollars or thirty 929 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:11,280 dollars for seniors or those that are 930 00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,160 18. 931 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,359 it doesn't tell me precisely how big 932 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,760 this book is seventy dollars is a lot i 933 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:19,920 have a copy of it it's it's it's 934 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:23,200 fairly sizable i'd say it's 150 pages 935 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,640 200 pages 936 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,880 i haven't dug it out in a while i also 937 00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,280 helped uh write a investigator's manual 938 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,119 for skywatch international back in the 939 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,200 mid 90s we'll have to ask you about that 940 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,040 in a moment as 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00:40:50,079 lower 48 call 888 315 9618 or click 1042 00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:51,599 block it pocket spell 1043 00:41:00,250 --> 00:40:58,309 dot com block it pocket enhancing health 1044 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:00,260 and 1045 00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,040 [Music] 1046 00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,359 this is privacy 7 the author of ufo 1047 00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:09,119 mysteries and you're listening to the 1048 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,200 paracast 1049 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,200 [Music] 1050 00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,119 cogs makai is joining us once again with 1051 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,359 a much better mic this week with jean 1052 00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,040 and chris in the power cast the monday 1053 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,200 morning quarterback edition on a sunday 1054 00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:23,520 and we were talking about how to become 1055 00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,839 a ufo investigator whether there are 1056 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,400 instruction manuals and mufon has one 1057 00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:30,319 for seventy dollars or fifty dollars to 1058 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,200 members chris wrote one in the nineties 1059 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,440 or you were co-author of one what's 1060 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,680 involved in that can we get a copy 1061 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,359 i do have a copy gene i need to go 1062 00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,079 through my my files and find it on when 1063 00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,880 i moved i kind of boxed up a lot of my 1064 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,960 my sort of dead files and stuff and i 1065 00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:48,560 think it may be in there 1066 00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,200 uh bill hamilton and i 1067 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:53,280 were tasked by the 1068 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,640 jim hickman the head of skywatch 1069 00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,040 international and and 1070 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,359 back in i think 98 if i remember 1071 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,280 correctly to come up with a field 1072 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:02,960 investigator's manual 1073 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:06,000 uh it's it's similar to the mufon model 1074 00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,280 however 1075 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,920 i i put in there a lot of follow-up type 1076 00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,000 questions and qualification 1077 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,400 type subjects that you don't find in the 1078 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,400 mufon manual 1079 00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:18,720 this is more for determining how 1080 00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:21,520 particular extraordinary events impact 1081 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,960 people's thinking process it gets into 1082 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,200 psychological issues that may be raised 1083 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:29,359 by uh you know a life 1084 00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,520 changing event like a close proximity 1085 00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,440 ufo sighting that sort of thing 1086 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,839 but basically it's the same thing it's a 1087 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,000 little bit more streamlined and i think 1088 00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,240 more up-to-date than the mufon model if 1089 00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,560 you look at the mufon uh section they're 1090 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,599 still talking about film cameras uh slr 1091 00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,000 cameras and improper exposures and all 1092 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,160 this kind of thing which which don't 1093 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,880 necessarily apply as much in today's 1094 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,319 digital world but 1095 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,400 but again i would make this available i 1096 00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:58,880 will dig it out i will make it available 1097 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,000 skywatch international is now defunct so 1098 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,520 i don't think bill hamilton would have 1099 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,200 any problem with me making this 1100 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:07,280 available to the public i think we need 1101 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,319 to get people up to speed educated 1102 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,040 and you know we need it to be automatic 1103 00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,040 uh for people they don't have to you 1104 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,960 know think twice about how to actually 1105 00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:18,800 properly investigate something it's real 1106 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:21,680 simple get people's name number the date 1107 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,160 and time of the event the location the 1108 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:26,240 duration of the event a description of 1109 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,280 the event 1110 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,839 and uh any corroborating witnesses and 1111 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,920 make sure you file reports so that you 1112 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,240 have the actual experience 1113 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,359 uh or event documented elsewhere besides 1114 00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,359 your own database and and it's it's 1115 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,359 pretty simple in basic 1116 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:43,280 everything gets more and more you know 1117 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,000 targeted and focused down to the minutia 1118 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,480 from that level uh forward is it just 1119 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:51,119 the same as the you know the method you 1120 00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,480 would follow for when you were 1121 00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,119 investigating cattle mutilations or 1122 00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,520 unexplained livestock deaths well apples 1123 00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,359 and oranges yeah the methodology would 1124 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,359 be would be very similar obviously 1125 00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,960 you're dealing with you know 1126 00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,560 thousands of pounds of physical evidence 1127 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,440 uh unlike in a ufo sighting so there are 1128 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,160 some very big differences obviously in 1129 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,480 terms of the basic documentation of the 1130 00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,400 event getting people's names their phone 1131 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,880 numbers descriptions location you know 1132 00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,480 in in the case of ufo sightings the 1133 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,079 duration of the event 1134 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:22,800 it's simple to to figure out how to uh 1135 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,839 determine azimuth for instance um 1136 00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,440 occasionally in daylight sightings it's 1137 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,400 it's fairly easy to determine size based 1138 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,319 on triangulation which i'm trying to do 1139 00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,720 up in the san luis valley if you have 1140 00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,040 more than one camera going and you have 1141 00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:39,359 a time code involved you're able to 1142 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,319 determine speed and size as well so you 1143 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,000 know again it's a process it's an 1144 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,319 educational thing people have to be 1145 00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,520 willing to 1146 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,000 you know go a little bit further go that 1147 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,640 little extra yard to properly document 1148 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,560 something but because who knows if 1149 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,400 somebody happens to stumble on an 1150 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,880 incredible event and get it documented 1151 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,480 and you know 1152 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,240 in in the best of all realms somebody 1153 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:04,960 else is there and they're able to run 1154 00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,599 run over and get additional footage 1155 00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:09,200 you know you can really determine a lot 1156 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,640 and especially if the person is up to 1157 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:13,040 speed and and is educated enough to do 1158 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,960 the proper follow-up well one of the 1159 00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,160 things of course 1160 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,079 with that particular document is 1161 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,839 probably what we'll have you do is 1162 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,560 digitize it format it make it available 1163 00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,280 as a downloadable file right from the 1164 00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,359 powercast so anybody can get this they 1165 00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:30,000 don't have to pay 70 for it what we 1166 00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,839 could also do is make a donation where 1167 00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,839 you know what that is where you send a 1168 00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,599 voluntary donation 1169 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,200 of whatever amount 1170 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:39,040 and then we can use that to fund 1171 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,640 whatever we're going to do because if we 1172 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,520 set up 1173 00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,520 a youtube channel we're going to need a 1174 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:46,079 little bit of help to get things going 1175 00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,280 exactly 1176 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,079 so that might be nice not 70 dollars but 1177 00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:51,680 donation where 1178 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,560 okay where you voluntarily 1179 00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:56,079 submit whatever amount of money could be 1180 00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,440 a dollar could be a million dollars 1181 00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,359 whatever it is dollar even we will 1182 00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,520 provide a copy of this publication it's 1183 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,800 not going to happen tomorrow it's going 1184 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:04,319 to take a little while chris has to 1185 00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,359 unearth a copy we have to digitize it he 1186 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,079 will want to update it some for more 1187 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:12,319 modern presentation correct because one 1188 00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,520 of the things that's really different 1189 00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:15,200 now about the world is 1190 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,800 that most films most photos are taken 1191 00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:20,560 with the cameras you have on a 1192 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,400 smartphone and some of them are really 1193 00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,480 crummy some of them are really good so 1194 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,079 if you get really the high-end phones 1195 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:29,760 like an iphone 5 or samsung galaxy s4 or 1196 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,960 the new phone from htc the htc one 1197 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:34,319 you can come up with pretty good 1198 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,280 pictures 1199 00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,440 without having to be a photographer what 1200 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,520 about the problem about 1201 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,960 um i i 1202 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,200 mentioned this in the forum gene and you 1203 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,200 had replied i i was thinking would it be 1204 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,079 better for ufology not necessarily in 1205 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:50,800 practice but if people were using old 1206 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,240 style like 35 millimeter film and and 1207 00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,520 you know like analog video in terms of 1208 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,920 you know digital you can mess about with 1209 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,200 it easy and 1210 00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,240 for for kind of trying not to allow 1211 00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,560 hoaxes to get through like if i if i was 1212 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,359 to see a ufo on a reasonably clear day 1213 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,240 or something i've got a samsung galaxy i 1214 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,400 could take a photo with that or i could 1215 00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,400 take a photo with an old style camera 1216 00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,560 with the color film in it 1217 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,079 which one of those 1218 00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,040 is gonna you know be better evidence for 1219 00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,359 somebody who maybe doesn't believe in 1220 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:27,599 ufos there's no question about which is 1221 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,359 better obviously the analog version 1222 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:30,880 would be better 1223 00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,839 what you could do with um photos of an 1224 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,119 object or 1225 00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,200 let's say exposing film 16 millimeter 1226 00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:39,040 film super eight film 1227 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,480 uh is you could just keep it in the 1228 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,200 camera and not allow it uh to be uh 1229 00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,920 processed until the actual processing is 1230 00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:48,079 documented and certified 1231 00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,599 uh it's much much uh better and it's 1232 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:52,640 it's 1233 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,280 a a lot more difficult to hoax things 1234 00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,520 with um with an analog 1235 00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,920 uh medium like that so uh there's no 1236 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,160 question in my mind where the uh 1237 00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,240 where my brothers would be ray stanford 1238 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:07,680 allegedly has 49 films of ufos and we're 1239 00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,640 talking 1240 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:11,359 8 millimeter super 8 and 16 millimeter 1241 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,960 films not video that sort of evidence uh 1242 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:18,000 is much much uh i think 1243 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,960 better and and harder to uh to hoax too 1244 00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:23,520 what was it was it bruce mcabee 1245 00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:25,760 and the gulf breeze sightings was it was 1246 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:28,720 it him that did this like twin parallax 1247 00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,359 camera thing he said or was it the ed 1248 00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:32,720 winters guy 1249 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,440 ed walters ed walter so yeah i think it 1250 00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,960 was ed walters but but the whole you 1251 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,720 know it was interesting that that the 1252 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,480 one book that uh 1253 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:42,800 blake should mention yeah was uh the 1254 00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,520 gulf breeze incident and uh you know i 1255 00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:47,599 think several people have done some very 1256 00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,400 very uh intense work on getting to the 1257 00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,640 bottom of some of ed walter's 1258 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,960 photographs and there are some glaring 1259 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,440 problems with a number of them and we 1260 00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,400 may be 1261 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,200 maybe seeing a very very elaborate hoax 1262 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,079 now bruce mcabee allegedly was paid 1263 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,400 ten thousand dollars i heard even more 1264 00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,200 uh to sign off on the original book so 1265 00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:10,640 you know you kind of have to wonder 1266 00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:12,880 whether mcabee was kind of 1267 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:15,599 somehow involved in and turning a blind 1268 00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,280 eye to walter's potential in alleged 1269 00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,839 shenanigans the famous shot of him uh 1270 00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,839 shooting at the object hovering over the 1271 00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,000 road the one thing that comes across on 1272 00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,520 that is that there's no reflection of 1273 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,119 the object on the hood in the foreground 1274 00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,040 which which to me there would be a 1275 00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,559 reflection there so there's things that 1276 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,400 were wrong with that by the way i was 1277 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,240 looking as we were talking here 1278 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,240 about the possibility of getting say a 1279 00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,319 super 8 camcorder 1280 00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,559 okay and you can buy them and i found 1281 00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,880 them online for as cheap as maybe fifty 1282 00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,319 or a hundred dollars 1283 00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:48,480 fairly decent ones like a sony steady 1284 00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,520 shop handy cam a steam shop candy cane 1285 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,200 what about the film 1286 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,599 the film is available 1287 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,520 you just have to kind of look for it but 1288 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,160 the film is available if you look online 1289 00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,400 you'll see super eight film and the 1290 00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,400 place i just check it's right now on 1291 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,599 ebay 1292 00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:07,520 they're talking about a super 1293 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,480 eight 1294 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,079 koda chrome 1295 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,160 cartridge 11 1296 00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:13,680 i don't know how many minutes of film 1297 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:16,800 footage that makes but the point is here 1298 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:19,040 is that the older technologies are 1299 00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:20,400 available we're not talking about buying 1300 00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:23,200 35 millimeter cameras okay so we're 1301 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:24,559 talking about super 8 is what we're 1302 00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:27,599 talking about okay super 8 is the analog 1303 00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:28,640 format 1304 00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,280 which has real kodachrome film and 1305 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,119 that's something if you looked online or 1306 00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:35,520 went to ebay you could probably find a 1307 00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,960 camcorder for a very affordable price i 1308 00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,559 think perhaps the most troublesome issue 1309 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:42,559 of course would be getting the film for 1310 00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,200 it 1311 00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:45,200 because any film you find now pretty 1312 00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:46,880 much has been sitting around for a few 1313 00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:49,359 years so that kind of damages the 1314 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:51,760 quality to put it mildly you know 1315 00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:54,800 because film had an expiration date 1316 00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,520 digital files do not have an expiration 1317 00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,680 date and we're 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research about ways to 1390 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:19,920 actually take 1391 00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,280 photos or movies of ufos but once again 1392 00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:24,800 this is the once in a lifetime 1393 00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,920 occurrence 1394 00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:28,559 and even if you armed yourself with the 1395 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:31,599 the super 8 camcorder for example and 1396 00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:34,000 you have real film and we're talking 1397 00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,760 about something it's technology is what 1398 00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,119 30 years old 1399 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:39,680 you get to fill in that yeah you get the 1400 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,480 film 1401 00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,880 you get the camcorder you're all set 1402 00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,839 with it 1403 00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:45,839 but the real question is 1404 00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:48,400 how often is that going to happen are 1405 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:49,760 you going to be lucky enough to take 1406 00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,480 that shot and to be there when it 1407 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,480 happens if you're an investigator it's 1408 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,960 part of your arsenal but most photos are 1409 00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,240 not made 1410 00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:00,319 by professional investigators yeah i 1411 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,599 suppose we're talking about the 1412 00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,359 difference between you know 1413 00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,599 just a member of the public chance 1414 00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,079 encounter pulls out whatever cameras 1415 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,400 available but then you've got people who 1416 00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,559 you know stay up all night and go on sky 1417 00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,079 watches with the 1418 00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,079 intention of hopefully capturing 1419 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,079 something and i suppose it's probably 1420 00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,680 these people 1421 00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,160 that i would hope would maybe 1422 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,000 think about analog film 1423 00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,000 in their arsenal as you're saying yeah 1424 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,920 yeah i agree and and and you have people 1425 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:29,920 like ed grimley who goes out with night 1426 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:32,319 vision equipment and uh gets some pretty 1427 00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,520 intriguing 1428 00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:35,599 images with night vision it's more 1429 00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:37,760 difficult to hoax night vision uh 1430 00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:40,720 footage than it is to you know hoax uh 1431 00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,079 just regular let's say video cam footage 1432 00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:46,880 and that's another thing too that um 1433 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:49,839 that i'd like to see more of is um 1434 00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,480 you know from infrared up to uh second 1435 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,119 generation third generation night vision 1436 00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:57,680 that that kind of footage is it could be 1437 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:00,640 very valuable and could be very uh very 1438 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,520 worthwhile to to get and analyze so i i 1439 00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,920 don't see much night vision uh 1440 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,280 in fact i don't think i've seen any 1441 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,240 night vision clips on blake's site 1442 00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:12,480 no have you tried it yourself chris and 1443 00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,359 also 1444 00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,200 i'm sure you've seen this the same 1445 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,960 videos i have there's a couple of 1446 00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,960 interesting videos a bit like the 1447 00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,720 mexican um 1448 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,880 air force one where you actually have 1449 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,720 someone who set up two cameras a 1450 00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:27,119 standard one and an infrared one and 1451 00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,839 sometimes an object appears only in 1452 00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:31,119 infrared 1453 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:34,880 and i don't know if that is a a real 1454 00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,200 video or not or a hoax but i found that 1455 00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,040 idea interesting and then obviously a 1456 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,240 night vision is image intensifying 1457 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:44,160 but those cameras are i was looking at 1458 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,240 them online you know for the whatever 1459 00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:47,920 mark three or four or whatever they're 1460 00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:50,079 called you're you're talking several 1461 00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,640 thousand dollars but i would love to go 1462 00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,480 on a night sky watch with ed grimsley 1463 00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,040 just george newly tried it and 1464 00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,359 apparently he was he managed to see 1465 00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:01,280 something interesting 1466 00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,799 on on that first time allegedly yes 1467 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,559 allegedly of course 1468 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:08,000 it's like the people who do the reality 1469 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,720 shows they go out to hunt ghosts and 1470 00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,480 almost invariably come back with 1471 00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,799 something yeah well reality shows that's 1472 00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,720 just another matter altogether is that 1473 00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,280 they've got to get something for each 1474 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,880 episode and 1475 00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:22,880 they make the biggest thing out of the 1476 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:24,880 smallest little noise if you're going to 1477 00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,319 go in an old building you know at night 1478 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,400 when the temperature is cooling down 1479 00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,880 it's gonna make noises there's gonna be 1480 00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,880 animals maybe rats scurrying about and 1481 00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,200 stuff and sure if you're down in some 1482 00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:40,000 sort of cellar that's got a reputation 1483 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,680 as being haunted or something you 1484 00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,599 probably are going to get genuinely 1485 00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,559 scared but whether that means anything 1486 00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:48,799 was actually going on you know you you 1487 00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,240 just know that 99.9 of the time on every 1488 00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,640 single one of these ghost hunter shows 1489 00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:57,040 we have our own ones here in the uk just 1490 00:58:02,230 --> 00:57:59,040 like you know separate from the american 1491 00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,240 ones and i don't i've watched them just 1492 00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,240 because i'm interested in the paranormal 1493 00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,240 not because i think they're good shows 1494 00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,319 and i've seen plenty good you know james 1495 00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,960 fox reactions of people genuinely being 1496 00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,480 scared but 1497 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,559 not because that i don't think it was 1498 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,920 because they actually encountered 1499 00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,000 everything uh when it comes to that kind 1500 00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:19,920 of evidence i think one of the kind of 1501 00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,359 creepiest things i've ever seen was um 1502 00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,319 barry taff in the entity case where 1503 00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:28,640 there's a cameraman goes up in the the 1504 00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,400 you know up in the loft 1505 00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,880 well he claims that basically something 1506 00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,880 wrapped something around his neck and 1507 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,960 kind of hung him up on a nail 1508 00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:39,359 and you see the guy coming out if that's 1509 00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,400 acting it's oscar stuff but that is 1510 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,000 that's the only time i've ever really 1511 00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:45,280 seen something 1512 00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:48,079 on video as it were that kind of looks 1513 00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,000 like something really was going on there 1514 00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:52,880 all these reality shows i've never seen 1515 00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,680 anything even remotely compelling but 1516 00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,000 they've got so many episodes just filled 1517 00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:00,240 with the same draws week to week rant 1518 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,440 over it's enough to put you to sleep 1519 00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,760 i don't watch reality shows and the 1520 00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,599 reason i don't watch is because of the 1521 00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,920 fact that they're staging it it doesn't 1522 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,839 mean there's no real things going on 1523 00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,400 there there aren't paranormal events but 1524 00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,319 you just know that the chances of 1525 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,960 actually seeing something predictably is 1526 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:21,200 about what one tenth of one thousandth 1527 00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,640 of one percent 1528 00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:24,480 so how come the crew each week see 1529 00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,520 something 1530 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,079 yeah well it depends too on on on the 1531 00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,119 site some sites uh i think the odds uh 1532 00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:33,359 improved uh dramatically 1533 00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,040 i got some footage in the basement of 1534 00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,000 the sally house that has yet to be um 1535 00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,280 broadcast or made available it was the 1536 00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,920 real thing i i could vouch for it and i 1537 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,319 had my back with what i was filming 1538 00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:47,920 people reacting to something that was 1539 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:51,599 behind me and it took every ounce of my 1540 00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:54,720 of my professionalism and concentration 1541 00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:56,799 not to whip around and start filming 1542 01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:58,319 what they were looking at just getting 1543 01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,599 their reaction shots of this whatever it 1544 01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:03,839 was it was that was coming up this 1545 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,559 energy form that i could feel uh behind 1546 01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,960 me that was coming up and and filming 1547 01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:10,799 close-ups of their reaction to it 1548 01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:11,920 there's no way 1549 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:13,760 that the three of them could could have 1550 01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:14,880 uh 1551 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:16,720 again like like gog said yeah it would 1552 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:17,440 be 1553 01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:19,599 oscar winning performances uh if they 1554 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:22,960 were acting and i felt it too and if the 1555 01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:25,280 the psychic who i was filming hadn't 1556 01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:27,440 said we need to leave right now if she 1557 01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,119 hadn't said it at that second i would 1558 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:31,119 have bolted out of there so 1559 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,040 i can't wait to get this uh finally 1560 01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,760 produced and on uh out there for people 1561 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,119 to check out 1562 01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,280 was that around the same time when you 1563 01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:41,200 said that there was one time you had a 1564 01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:43,359 high quality camera and there there was 1565 01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:45,040 an image in the mirror of the corridor 1566 01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,559 or something behind you 1567 01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,720 last year that that was the only ghost 1568 01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:50,400 i've ever seen uh 1569 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:52,319 or whatever it was it was i guess 1570 01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:53,680 technically it was more of a shadow 1571 01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:54,640 person 1572 01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:57,839 no no that was and that was a 3d a 22 1573 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:01,200 000 3d camera if that had initialized 1574 01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:03,040 the the actual footage that probably 1575 01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:05,040 would have been the very first uh 3d 1576 01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:07,520 footage of a ghost so i just put on my 1577 01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,240 glasses turn on the 3d set and i'd see 1578 01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,559 something well whatever it was it leaned 1579 01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:14,480 out and checked me out from behind and 1580 01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,839 the only reason why i knew it was there 1581 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:17,359 was because i was looking in a big huge 1582 01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,640 mirror at the end of the hallway at 1583 01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:20,319 myself walking towards the mirror and i 1584 01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:23,280 saw it lean out behind me and i was so 1585 01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:25,280 excited you have no idea i was jumping 1586 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:26,400 up and down 1587 01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,680 and you've just made me think of 1588 01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:29,359 something else the only kind of part of 1589 01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,000 normal experience i uh well i know i've 1590 01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:34,319 had it seems paranormal to me i was 1591 01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:37,440 about 10 12 13 or something literally 1592 01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,079 150 yards around the corner in an 1593 01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:42,640 adjacent street to the one i lived but 1594 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,440 basically myself and a friend so you 1595 01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:47,280 know i've got the uh the corroboration 1596 01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,400 of another guy there and we saw 1597 01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:52,640 i'll call it now a full body apparition 1598 01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,880 but what we thought was it was at night 1599 01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,240 it was dark but 1600 01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,079 um next to street lights and stuff we 1601 01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:00,720 saw an old woman and we were so 1602 01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:03,520 convinced that she was like out of place 1603 01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,040 in that 1604 01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:06,559 where she was 1605 01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,880 we knew everyone who lived around and if 1606 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:10,559 there had been an old woman there at 1607 01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,640 that time of night she must have been 1608 01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:14,880 lost or something so we were it wasn't 1609 01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:17,359 she was only like you know 20 yards away 1610 01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:18,319 or so 1611 01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:20,319 and we kept her in view the whole time 1612 01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,079 and we were doing the kind of you know 1613 01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:23,760 good spirited thing we were going to go 1614 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:26,880 around approach her and ask her why she 1615 01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:28,240 was there because she was actually on 1616 01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:30,000 the property of a friend and i knew she 1617 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:32,880 wasn't a relation or anything anyway and 1618 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:36,480 this little lane um just went 1619 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,000 into a complete dead end no escape and 1620 01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,640 this woman who that we saw walked 1621 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,640 towards that and as we rounded the 1622 01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:46,240 little wall was only like four and a 1623 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:49,040 half feet high or something i went round 1624 01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:50,880 she was nowhere to be seen it wasn't 1625 01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:54,000 until we couldn't find her that we even 1626 01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,599 thought there was anything up at no 1627 01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:57,839 point did we think when we're seeing her 1628 01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:59,599 that this could be an apparition or 1629 01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:00,960 anything but 1630 01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:03,200 you know there's no trap doors there 1631 01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,440 there is a wall at the end but it's very 1632 01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:07,760 high and the figure of the person we saw 1633 01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:10,799 unless she was a very fit gymnast old 1634 01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,359 woman there's no chance she could escape 1635 01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:15,039 and we're talking about she was only out 1636 01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,480 of view for a second a second and a half 1637 01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,640 so there was no being scared or anything 1638 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:22,640 it was only afterwards we're thinking 1639 01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,880 what just happened and we you know at 1640 01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:27,200 that age 12 13 1641 01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,559 we we didn't have the the knowledge or 1642 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:32,880 of anything to to really 1643 01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:36,000 even think about it in any depth and 1644 01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,160 i wouldn't be surprised if we didn't 1645 01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,400 think about that for a long time but but 1646 01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,319 the two of us saw it 1647 01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,480 that is one thing that really 1648 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,480 made me you know believe 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yeah there was this weekly magazine as i 1763 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:27,520 said a short run and it was called the 1764 01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,480 unexplained so you know it would cover 1765 01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,640 things like you know life after death 1766 01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:35,600 ufos the usual stuff i wouldn't i would 1767 01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,920 be very surprised if nick redfern hadn't 1768 01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,319 gotten into this as well judging by his 1769 01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:42,640 age and stuff but and and this one it 1770 01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,239 once had a free 1771 01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:46,799 you know like old vinyl records and you 1772 01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,040 know i'm old enough to have bought vinyl 1773 01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,000 i'm sure younger listeners may not have 1774 01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:54,960 but anyway sometimes used to get free 1775 01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,440 singles uh a pop track or so with some 1776 01:09:02,709 --> 01:08:59,759 magazine but the vinyl would just be 1777 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,719 this very very thin floppy record it 1778 01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,560 didn't even always perform very well on 1779 01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:06,799 a round table but anyway this one 1780 01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:09,279 uh free issue it had what it was calling 1781 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,759 sounds from beyond the grave i'm not 1782 01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,359 entirely sure of how they were supposed 1783 01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,040 to have recorded or anything but 1784 01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:17,199 whatever was on that was really creepy 1785 01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:19,920 even at a young age and i remember just 1786 01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:21,520 at that around that age when this 1787 01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:23,679 magazine was coming out i implored my 1788 01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,319 parents to give me money to buy this and 1789 01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,719 i bought all of them and i was just 1790 01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,799 like another issue was about spontaneous 1791 01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:32,719 human combustion it's got a classic 1792 01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:35,359 photo of some old woman's chair and 1793 01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:37,359 there's just ashes and everything and a 1794 01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:39,920 leg which is pretty much intact 1795 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,640 up to a point so around the time of that 1796 01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,759 sighting 1797 01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,679 um i think i was starting to get an 1798 01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:48,239 interest into the paranormal in general 1799 01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,400 but i think it was a bit later that i 1800 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,359 kind of took more of an interest in ufos 1801 01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,840 and me personally i know why i am 1802 01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:57,840 interested in ufos and it's nothing to 1803 01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:00,159 do about space brothers or 1804 01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,920 whatever for me if ufos are real they 1805 01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:06,080 are proof positive 1806 01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:08,719 that maybe one day us humans will be 1807 01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:10,880 able to travel the galaxy you know ala 1808 01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:12,159 star trek 1809 01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:14,560 um and travel at fantastic speeds and 1810 01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,320 who knows maybe even have things like 1811 01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:18,560 transporters but for me it's about 1812 01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,199 proving that one day our technology 1813 01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,080 might be as cool as what they are 1814 01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:26,159 displaying if indeed they are there 1815 01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,800 that's what that's why i'm into ufos 1816 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,199 it's about what's out there and maybe 1817 01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,360 finding the answer to the age-old 1818 01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,520 question are we alone in the universe 1819 01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,520 that paraphrases the 1820 01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:39,840 quote from the movie trailer from man of 1821 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,239 steel the new superman reboot and a 1822 01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,040 large part this story is about first 1823 01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,640 contact it's about an alien coming here 1824 01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,560 and having to cope with our world he's 1825 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:53,440 an orphaned alien who is humanoid but is 1826 01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:55,679 not human but that is the big thing 1827 01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,520 about that story that makes it out of 1828 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:00,159 the comic book range how do we deal with 1829 01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,800 evidence of real contact and now of 1830 01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,560 course we have all the stuff that's 1831 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:05,840 going on where we're hearing more and 1832 01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,120 more about earth-like planets does that 1833 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,400 for example provide some kind of gradual 1834 01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:15,120 disclosure you never know now let me get 1835 01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,560 back a bit to 1836 01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:17,679 taking 1837 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,719 good photos of ufos or movies chris 1838 01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,640 since we've already broached the subject 1839 01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:24,800 about training manuals and stuff would 1840 01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:27,120 you give a few hints to people if you 1841 01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:29,679 see something really strange in the sky 1842 01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,760 daytime or night time and you got the 1843 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:33,920 camcorder whether it's a smartphone or 1844 01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,640 something else what do you do how do you 1845 01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:38,239 capture that image 1846 01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,520 so it survives a blake cousins youtube 1847 01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:43,679 site well the first the first thing i 1848 01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:46,239 would suggest is is trying to get into a 1849 01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:49,600 position where you can be as steady and 1850 01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,320 sure-handed as possible either putting 1851 01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,800 your elbows down on the hood of a car 1852 01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,520 and and creating a as close to a tripod 1853 01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:59,679 configuration as possible obviously the 1854 01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:02,159 best the best of all scenarios is to 1855 01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,880 actually have a tripod uh handy and 1856 01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:06,800 oftentimes when i do sky watches i'll 1857 01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:10,400 walk around with a camera or a video 1858 01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:12,320 camera on a tripod i'll just have it 1859 01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:13,600 there as a 1860 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:17,360 as part of the uh process getting as as 1861 01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,800 steady a position to film is is most 1862 01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,640 important if you're standing there 1863 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,880 with the camera out in front of you 1864 01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,480 it's going to be really difficult 1865 01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:28,960 especially if you zoom in on an object 1866 01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:32,239 the more you push your zoom in into an 1867 01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,800 object the more exaggerated any sort of 1868 01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:36,400 movement is going to become 1869 01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,880 and oftentimes the problem with amateur 1870 01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,880 videos of of objects 1871 01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:42,960 i'm assuming that everyone assumes a 1872 01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:45,440 real object uh not a hoaxed one but the 1873 01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,440 hardest thing to do is to get a good 1874 01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:49,040 close-up 1875 01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:51,760 zoom of the object and be steady at the 1876 01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:54,400 same time it's almost impossible to to 1877 01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:56,960 get good pushed in handheld footage the 1878 01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,800 other thing to always remember is turn 1879 01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:00,719 off your auto focus 1880 01:13:04,149 --> 01:13:02,320 there's so many videos out there where 1881 01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,159 people where people are are fooled into 1882 01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,080 thinking they're they're 1883 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,560 you know videotaping this ball of of 1884 01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,480 light and when in actuality what they're 1885 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,400 doing is filming the out of focus 1886 01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:14,800 quality of that particular light which 1887 01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:18,400 is much smaller and much uh much more um 1888 01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,679 condensed normally and uh you know take 1889 01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:23,520 off any sort of auto 1890 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,800 focus function 1891 01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,360 also a lot of cameras nowadays have 1892 01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,080 optical and digital zoom 1893 01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,120 never go into digital zoom oftentimes 1894 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:35,199 will happen is let's say you'll have 10 1895 01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:38,320 times optical zoom and then 30 times a 1896 01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,040 digital zoom only go out to the to the 1897 01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,520 portion where the digital zoom starts 1898 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,600 never go beyond that because all digital 1899 01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:47,520 zoom does is blow up the size of the 1900 01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,000 pixels which isn't going to help the 1901 01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,320 quality of the final image at all you 1902 01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:54,000 can always do that in post production a 1903 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:56,080 lot more efficiently and an analyst can 1904 01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:57,520 do it a lot more efficiently when he's 1905 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,640 viewing 1906 01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,400 optical zoom 1907 01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,040 footage uh the other thing to remember 1908 01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,760 as well is it depends obviously on 1909 01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,199 daytime and nighttime but if you have 1910 01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,159 any sort of control over over the 1911 01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,320 over um shutter speed 1912 01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:14,719 and and the various uh other 1913 01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,640 you know possible functions that your 1914 01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,640 particular camera might have 1915 01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,480 become familiar with them and and 1916 01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:23,040 understand how they work and obviously 1917 01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:26,159 you're going to want to uh to uh 1918 01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:28,719 be familiar with the capabilities of 1919 01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:31,679 your particular piece of equipment so 1920 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,000 so again uh those those three points 1921 01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,800 always maintain as steady 1922 01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:38,320 uh and as 1923 01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:39,520 braced 1924 01:15:35,030 --> 01:14:40,320 a 1925 01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,040 then you get into things like metering 1926 01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:37,600 and contrast and stuff like that 1927 01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:39,280 which is very important 1928 01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:41,679 so you can do a few things 1929 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,640 if you turn off the special effects 1930 01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:46,400 so that's one thing to understand they 1931 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,120 also have gps tag which i would include 1932 01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:51,280 on any of these cameras because what you 1933 01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,640 want to do here 1934 01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:54,480 is you want to be able to have some kind 1935 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:58,080 of hard copy of your location 1936 01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:59,280 yeah 1937 01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:01,360 because that also can separate the wii 1938 01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:02,800 from the chaff if you say you were in 1939 01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,760 hawaii but the photo says you were in 1940 01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,280 podunk iowa 1941 01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,040 and no disrespect to the people in 1942 01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:11,120 podunk iowa 1943 01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,080 but 1944 01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,560 at least you can demonstrate assuming 1945 01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,480 you don't somehow manipulate that 1946 01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:19,199 tagging where you actually were when the 1947 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,400 picture was taken 1948 01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:21,840 we're telling you how to create a real 1949 01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:24,800 ufo photo here not the fakery but the 1950 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a 2048 01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,520 long time student of the paranormal 2049 01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:05,679 we're exploring the ramifications 2050 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:08,960 of last week's episode and more to the 2051 01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,000 point 2052 01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,000 constructive information on how to take 2053 01:21:16,630 --> 01:21:14,719 your own photos or movies now one other 2054 01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:16,640 thing you have here of course with 2055 01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,199 the smartphone camera some of the better 2056 01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:21,120 ones have what they call auto 2057 01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:23,679 stabilization so you get less of the 2058 01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:25,440 shaking effect what's the impact of that 2059 01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,719 chris you know i i tend not to use any 2060 01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:30,400 sort of stabilization 2061 01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,880 i i think having actual physical 2062 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:35,120 stabilization is more important because 2063 01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:36,400 what you're doing is you're allowing 2064 01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:38,880 that camera to approximate uh the 2065 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:41,679 information and you don't want that 2066 01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:44,080 in all perfect uh scenarios 2067 01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,880 having a tripod or being able to really 2068 01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,320 brace yourself 2069 01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:50,400 solidly especially if you're going to 2070 01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,639 zoom in on something another thing that 2071 01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:54,639 i forgot to mention too is 2072 01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:57,840 always try to have at least some portion 2073 01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,120 of the footage 2074 01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,360 pulled all the way back to show objects 2075 01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:02,719 in the foreground 2076 01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:04,960 it's important and and let it sit there 2077 01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:08,480 for a while so that we have a good sense 2078 01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,560 of of exactly what is around the actual 2079 01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,960 witness at the time of the filming and 2080 01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:16,880 it gives us it gives us perspective and 2081 01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,040 context uh in regards to the object 2082 01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:21,199 that's being filmed you can push in on 2083 01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:22,639 it but make sure you always have an 2084 01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:24,880 establishing shot as they say in in the 2085 01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:25,920 business 2086 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:27,920 create an establishing shot at some 2087 01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,840 point during the experience that's 2088 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,280 really important because then that 2089 01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:33,520 allows the analyst a lot more visual 2090 01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:36,239 information and and gives gives context 2091 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,000 to the actual uh object that's being 2092 01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,480 filmed yeah i've got a point yeah i was 2093 01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:42,560 going to bring up that about uh 2094 01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:44,880 including some kind of reference point 2095 01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,199 reference object in this shot at least a 2096 01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:49,920 point it can help tell with distances 2097 01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:52,560 and size because if you're only seeing 2098 01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,199 blue sky around an object say and from 2099 01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:57,040 start to finish in the shot 2100 01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:58,960 then it's very hard to make any kind of 2101 01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:01,199 judgment or measurement of size and 2102 01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,560 stuff 2103 01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:03,679 and 2104 01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:07,440 it's completely gone out of my head i'll 2105 01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:13,270 oh no no i've got it yeah it's come back 2106 01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,080 great the brain's working what it is is 2107 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:19,120 so many times when i've seen um doc some 2108 01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,000 of the decent documentaries and ufos and 2109 01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,000 the narrator will say 2110 01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:26,560 such and such a person filmed the object 2111 01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:29,520 uh for for x amount of time 2112 01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,639 and then it left at speed now what i'm 2113 01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:35,280 really interested in is not just seeing 2114 01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:38,480 a stationary or slow moving object i'm 2115 01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:40,639 what really gets me going is when they 2116 01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:44,080 start to like have instant acceleration 2117 01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,960 etc so i would also say if you're 2118 01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:48,880 filming an object 2119 01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:50,239 try and 2120 01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:53,280 continue filming it until it leaves i i 2121 01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,960 want to see how it leaves where it is or 2122 01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,400 how it's moving that's the thing that 2123 01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:00,239 really get i want to see that really 2124 01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,960 fast maneuvers or maybe right angled 2125 01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,120 turns it going straight up in the sky 2126 01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:07,520 and stuff you know to take to film an 2127 01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:09,760 object because let's face it they're not 2128 01:24:14,229 --> 01:24:12,159 going to stay there forever so 2129 01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:14,239 even if it takes an hour or more i would 2130 01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:18,159 implore people to try and capture its 2131 01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,480 exit because that might be 2132 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:22,800 the the thing that 2133 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:26,320 proves most that it is not mundane 2134 01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:27,760 and that was my point yeah that's a good 2135 01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,480 point there aren't that many videos even 2136 01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:33,040 even if we're if we were to take time to 2137 01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:34,880 sit and troll through 2138 01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:37,440 third phase of moon or any other kind of 2139 01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,239 ufo collection site or documentary there 2140 01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:43,040 are very few videos that 2141 01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,199 show objects moving 2142 01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,679 um in such a way there are some out 2143 01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:49,679 there but i remember there was a couple 2144 01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:52,800 i had in my head i remembered i spent 2145 01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,199 hours going through ufo documentaries 2146 01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:57,520 trying to find these individual ones and 2147 01:25:01,669 --> 01:25:00,159 i did find one i'm sure it's something 2148 01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:01,679 off the coast of florida or something 2149 01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:04,400 but anyway this object is stationary out 2150 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,639 over the ocean for a while and i might 2151 01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:08,480 mention that i'm pretty sure it was 2152 01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,040 filmed on like an old vhs camcorder or 2153 01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:13,360 something but this thing really does 2154 01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,480 just go 2155 01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:17,280 off off it goes and you know to go from 2156 01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,360 stationary to that that's the 2157 01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:21,199 interesting part not stationary 2158 01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,120 stationary stationary 2159 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,040 obviously it depends on what what what 2160 01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:27,280 is actually happening you can't pick and 2161 01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:28,239 choose 2162 01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:29,840 yeah that's my main thing that's what 2163 01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:31,679 interests me and i would implore people 2164 01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:34,159 to stay with it and try and capture 2165 01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,719 how it leaves the the space it's in 2166 01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:38,960 right and it's always good to be pulled 2167 01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,480 back some because if it leaves and 2168 01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:42,639 you're you're totally zoomed in on it 2169 01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,320 you're gonna have a hard time 2170 01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:46,880 capturing where it went if it goes out 2171 01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:49,440 of frame so yeah so always be ready you 2172 01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:51,360 know if that object appears to be 2173 01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:53,280 getting ready to take off always pull 2174 01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:56,159 back you know pull pull back the zoom 2175 01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,840 oh and then our thing obviously is if 2176 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,080 you do see one by chance and you're with 2177 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:02,960 someone else get them to film it too 2178 01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:04,800 maybe move away from you a bit to try 2179 01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:07,280 and get two you know two two points of 2180 01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:09,760 view and also as corroboration 2181 01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:12,239 much harder to fake two individual 2182 01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:14,159 videos that are filming the same thing 2183 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,159 than it is one which brings up this 2184 01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:18,320 whole um the temple mount thing in 2185 01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,960 jerusalem was there what three or four 2186 01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,480 videos of that i don't know what the 2187 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:24,639 current thinking in that whole thing is 2188 01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:26,560 if it's fake but it's very well 2189 01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:29,600 choreographed if it's faked 2190 01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,040 chris 2191 01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,920 well i've you know i i always uh 2192 01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,920 until those second and third videos 2193 01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,760 showed up i i i just thought the thing 2194 01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:39,840 was uh was a hoax and and you're you're 2195 01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:40,880 correct 2196 01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:44,000 uh more camera angles of you know in 2197 01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,120 trying to 2198 01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:47,199 create an elaborate hoax obviously it's 2199 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:49,600 it's much more difficult uh 2200 01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,000 to provide other camera angles it's not 2201 01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:54,080 impossible by any stretch but 2202 01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,840 but it is much more difficult and takes 2203 01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:58,159 a lot more time maybe that's why these 2204 01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,600 these other uh clips it took so long for 2205 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,120 them to be 2206 01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:05,440 actually publicized because they were 2207 01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:08,159 too busy manufacturing them to 2208 01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,360 to actually come out with them right 2209 01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:12,239 away the events like the uh the eclipse 2210 01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:15,520 in 92 i think are 91 down in mexico city 2211 01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:17,600 where you had i think up to 18 different 2212 01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:18,880 camcorders 2213 01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:22,560 uh going on on a the silver you know 2214 01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:25,199 looking orb in the sky high in the sky 2215 01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,440 that's one of the rare examples of of 2216 01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,280 people outside actually filming 2217 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,920 something else and then able to to 2218 01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,080 discern something that looks 2219 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:36,239 extraordinary and then get footage of it 2220 01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:39,040 from all different angles there's been a 2221 01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,960 couple of good uh 2222 01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,120 projects i think that have been done 2223 01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:46,000 comparing different camera angles um 2224 01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,080 obviously you're gonna have some sort of 2225 01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:50,639 time uh issues there it's kind of hard 2226 01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:53,040 to synchronize uh cameras unless you're 2227 01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:54,719 you're working in concert with with a 2228 01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:57,760 team but uh i think they were able in in 2229 01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:00,000 a few instances to actually determine 2230 01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,120 very very accurately the exact time of 2231 01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,360 the footage that was done by other 2232 01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,920 people unbeknownst to to each other and 2233 01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:10,080 and that sort of triangulation data is 2234 01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:12,320 really important because you're able to 2235 01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:15,600 determine uh size distance speed if you 2236 01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:17,679 have more than one 2237 01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,400 camera angle obviously three is uh you 2238 01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:22,400 know the optimal and more obviously is 2239 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,239 even even better so 2240 01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,920 yeah that's a good point always if 2241 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:27,920 somebody else is there with a with a 2242 01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,560 cell phone or a camcorder have them get 2243 01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,880 away from you if they can the more 2244 01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:34,880 distance you put between the vantage 2245 01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:36,400 points the more accurate you're going to 2246 01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:39,679 be able to to determine data so so those 2247 01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:41,440 are some real good rules of thumb for 2248 01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:43,679 our aspiring sky watchers out there 2249 01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,159 hopefully some of blake's 2250 01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,239 legions of fans out there will be 2251 01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:50,480 listening to the show and taking notes 2252 01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:52,560 before goggs drops in with a point here 2253 01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:55,360 just want to mention among the emails we 2254 01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:57,360 got i don't really recall getting 2255 01:29:02,709 --> 01:28:59,679 anything from anyone saying hi i am a 2256 01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:02,719 loyal follower of third face of moon the 2257 01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:05,360 youtube channel and i approve of his 2258 01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:06,800 work we had people who said we shouldn't 2259 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,639 have attacked him we had people who 2260 01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,480 applaud us for attacking him or took a 2261 01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:12,560 middle-of-the-point point of view but 2262 01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,920 nobody said 2263 01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:15,600 i love this site 2264 01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,239 you wonder about all those fans cogs 2265 01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:19,920 yeah chris you're bringing up the 2266 01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:23,280 eclipse uh sightings in mexico city 2267 01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:25,120 uh that that brings up something that 2268 01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,679 i've i've always wanted to mention and 2269 01:29:31,870 --> 01:29:29,520 about the question 2270 01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:31,880 let's just say there are 2271 01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:33,840 extraterrestrials interdimensionals or 2272 01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:35,360 whatever but there's non-human 2273 01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:38,639 intelligence flying these objects and 2274 01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,679 people often discussing why don't they 2275 01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:43,920 show themselves or are they deliberately 2276 01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:46,080 showing themselves but by a certain 2277 01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:48,800 amount and stuff you've got to wonder 2278 01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:51,760 about the deliberateness of the most 2279 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:55,520 populous city on earth during an eclipse 2280 01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:56,320 when 2281 01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:59,040 the most people possible are probably 2282 01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:00,880 guaranteed going to be looking up in the 2283 01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:04,080 sky and that is the time that you get a 2284 01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:05,199 pretty good 2285 01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:08,639 sighting of a disc shaped object now if 2286 01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:11,120 that wasn't deliberate on the part of 2287 01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,360 whatever that object is 2288 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:15,520 then it's got to be the greatest 2289 01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:19,360 coincidence ever to me that is a kind of 2290 01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:21,679 a positive for thinking that 2291 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,840 yes at least to a degree they do want to 2292 01:30:28,470 --> 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01:34:38,560 t-e-r-a-g-a-n-i-x 2390 01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:44,950 that's 2391 01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:45,760 nine 866 2392 01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:48,159 six seven eight terroganics life's 2393 01:34:56,189 --> 01:34:50,020 getting 2394 01:35:00,040 --> 01:34:58,790 better mysteries and you're listening to 2395 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:00,050 the paragraphs 2396 01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:03,040 [Music] 2397 01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:05,199 with jean and chris and gogs makai we 2398 01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:06,719 explore the 2399 01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:09,440 implications of this youtube channel by 2400 01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:10,159 the 2401 01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:15,679 not be named give him a new name that 2402 01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,159 would be it because that other guy who 2403 01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,239 follows the one armed man 2404 01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:22,880 we called him he who shall not be named 2405 01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,199 so maybe we should call this one the 2406 01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:27,920 twins who shall not be named gogs you 2407 01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:29,120 want to finish your point before chris 2408 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,280 takes over i think i'd finish there 2409 01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,600 cause chris was going to come in saying 2410 01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:35,440 this is disagreeing 2411 01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:37,520 yeah because you know first of all it 2412 01:35:42,629 --> 01:35:40,080 wasn't a dis-shaped object um it wasn't 2413 01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:42,639 it was a round silvery ball if i 2414 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:45,120 remember correctly which you know if it 2415 01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:46,960 was this shaped it was on edge but 2416 01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,040 according to the various vantage points 2417 01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:51,440 around the city it did look to be fairly 2418 01:35:55,110 --> 01:35:53,360 large and fairly round and 2419 01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:55,120 highly reflective 2420 01:35:59,110 --> 01:35:57,760 now who's to say 2421 01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,120 that some 2422 01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,400 psychotronic weapons uh team 2423 01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:04,880 didn't uh come up with an idea well hey 2424 01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:08,480 let's see how our new um you know exotic 2425 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:10,560 black technology drone 2426 01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:12,880 uh will be perceived over the world's 2427 01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,400 top most populous city when we know 2428 01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:16,239 people are going to be looking up maybe 2429 01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:17,840 that could have been floated down from 2430 01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:21,360 white sands or from holloman or from 2431 01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,360 fort huichaka or 2432 01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:25,360 from any number of 2433 01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:26,639 southern tier 2434 01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:29,840 us military bases hovered over the city 2435 01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:31,840 just to gauge the reaction of the local 2436 01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:33,520 populists who they knew were going to be 2437 01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,840 looking up that day so you know i think 2438 01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:37,280 you're you're kind of making an 2439 01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:39,040 assumption that that was something off 2440 01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:41,920 planet and or extra mundane when in fact 2441 01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:45,040 we do have the technology uh to hover in 2442 01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:46,560 the sky to 2443 01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:49,760 to uh you know have uh unmanned drones i 2444 01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:51,520 think we've had this technology for 2445 01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:53,280 quite some time 2446 01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:54,800 this is not something i think that's 2447 01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:57,440 been discussed much uh in the field it 2448 01:37:01,750 --> 01:36:59,840 needs to be discussed more i think a lot 2449 01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:01,760 of sightings for instance in the san 2450 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:04,480 luis valley where i investigated 2451 01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:08,080 full-time for 10 years i think a a a 2452 01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:10,080 sizable percentage of what people were 2453 01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:11,840 seeing down there and still see down 2454 01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,639 there could be very mundane but exotic 2455 01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:16,800 technology that's uh very 2456 01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,360 terrestrial in nature so you know we we 2457 01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,440 have to be careful not to jump uh 2458 01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:23,840 towards the highest range off planet or 2459 01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:27,360 or extra dimensional meta ultra you know 2460 01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:30,159 with extraterrestrial the definition 2461 01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:32,639 uh we need to factor out all mundane 2462 01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,119 explanations before we jump off uh off 2463 01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:37,440 planet that's like for example 2464 01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:39,679 taking some kind of 2465 01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:42,960 corpse or fossil of a small fetus and 2466 01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:45,679 saying hey folks this is an alien body 2467 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,189 yeah 2468 01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:52,870 you guys have a chance to look at this 2469 01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:55,840 documentary that was posted online from 2470 01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:57,679 stephen greer about 2471 01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:59,520 sirius i guess they call it to name the 2472 01:38:02,470 --> 01:38:00,800 star system 2473 01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:02,480 guys you could go first i'm not because 2474 01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,320 i'm going to see it uh next week when i 2475 01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:05,679 go and and 2476 01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,840 crew up for the uh citizens hearing on 2477 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:09,679 disclosure and at the national press 2478 01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:11,760 club in dc we're going to have some sort 2479 01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:13,520 of uh you know 2480 01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:15,760 secondary premiere there of the film so 2481 01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:16,400 i 2482 01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,960 concerned though 2483 01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:23,760 yeah i i am i certainly wouldn't pay for 2484 01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:25,520 it i i noticed in the forums that 2485 01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:28,960 somebody um has watched it um i can't 2486 01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:31,040 really remember enough of what they said 2487 01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:33,920 but i i certainly if if if a copy is 2488 01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,840 made available on youtube to watch for 2489 01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,159 free i'll absolutely watch it and 2490 01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:40,560 actually it's just it's just 2491 01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:43,760 this is very pertinent today um there's 2492 01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:46,159 probably the second biggest selling 2493 01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:49,520 daily in the uk a tabloid that is we 2494 01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:51,760 have the sun but then the next one is 2495 01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,440 called the star 2496 01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:56,239 uh and and about page three or something 2497 01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:58,719 like that there is an article 2498 01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,080 about that little humanoid skeleton body 2499 01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:04,800 thing that dr grier is going on about 2500 01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:07,280 and and i took a photo with my samsung 2501 01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,719 galaxy of this article just because you 2502 01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:12,800 could so tell that the person writing 2503 01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,119 the article didn't have the first clue 2504 01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:17,199 who stephen greer is because 2505 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:18,960 the way he's written about it's just 2506 01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,760 this 2507 01:39:23,830 --> 01:39:21,600 well they think he's just some 2508 01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:23,840 like a medical doctor from california or 2509 01:39:29,109 --> 01:39:25,360 something it doesn't mention anything 2510 01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:29,119 about his ufo or disclosure background 2511 01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:31,760 anything like that and almost the tone 2512 01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:33,600 of it as if yeah we should really listen 2513 01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,239 to this guy because he's a doctor that's 2514 01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:38,719 the the way i i read it but you gotta 2515 01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:42,000 wonder about if griers inverted commas 2516 01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:43,040 people 2517 01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:44,880 have been uh you know sending out the 2518 01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:47,199 stories to the the news agencies and 2519 01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:48,639 stuff because it's quite funny that this 2520 01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:50,880 documentary is just coming out 2521 01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:51,760 and 2522 01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:54,719 this articles in this star in the uk but 2523 01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:57,199 they obviously didn't have a clue about 2524 01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:58,960 greer's history or anything because it 2525 01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:01,040 was very neutral and it just mentioned 2526 01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,040 them you know such and such a doctor 2527 01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,960 thinks this but in the article anyway 2528 01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:06,320 it's saying that 2529 01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:07,440 it's now 2530 01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:08,239 uh 2531 01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:11,199 well by him anyway agreed that it is 2532 01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:14,000 uh like a freak human skeleton and he's 2533 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:15,199 saying that there's 2534 01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:16,960 you know they can they've from scans or 2535 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:19,199 whatever they're seeing the heart liver 2536 01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,800 all the little organs 2537 01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,560 and now i've heard of 2538 01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:24,560 very small people and the thing's got 2539 01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:27,119 nine ribs or something but 2540 01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:28,560 so i don't know if all this info was 2541 01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:31,520 just coming from greer's camp or not but 2542 01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:33,520 the timing is perfect but back to the 2543 01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:35,440 documentary i'll absolutely watch it 2544 01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:36,880 just because i've 2545 01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:38,880 it's it's like watching a car crash it's 2546 01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,480 hard not to see what grier will do next 2547 01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:43,920 hey but don't you think it's one of the 2548 01:40:48,870 --> 01:40:45,679 little people that got caught in the 2549 01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,880 desert without any uh grog 2550 01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:50,960 you better ask your ancestors and chris 2551 01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:52,480 or your 2552 01:40:56,709 --> 01:40:54,960 distant relations in the emerald isle 2553 01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:56,719 yeah i think they were on vacation in 2554 01:41:02,470 --> 01:40:58,480 the atacama and they 2555 01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:04,070 i think one of the problems here is when 2556 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,080 we talk about something like that 2557 01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:08,320 and it's gotten some publicity if we 2558 01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:12,239 spend too much time giving stephen greer 2559 01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,960 unneeded publicity or blake cousins or 2560 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,719 blake cousins blake cousins is getting a 2561 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,400 lot more than he deserves 2562 01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:20,159 but we talk about someone like a stephen 2563 01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:21,199 greer 2564 01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,040 we dealt with him 2565 01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,440 several years ago on the power cast 2566 01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:27,760 and he did not acquit himself well when 2567 01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,840 he did our show now he's still charging 2568 01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,520 people thousands of dollars to go on his 2569 01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:33,280 little trips to see 2570 01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,440 ufos and he's making these crazy claims 2571 01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:37,040 well someone offered him two billion 2572 01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:39,280 dollars to close down his c city 2573 01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,800 organization 2574 01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:42,880 they've got this documentary which has 2575 01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:45,119 gotten really bad reviews 2576 01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:47,679 claiming that they've got this little 2577 01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:50,320 skeleton or whatever of an alien being 2578 01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,239 which everybody says is actually old 2579 01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:54,159 news it's something that they had 2580 01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:56,159 discovered and analyzed years ago if you 2581 01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:58,560 read the stories you see but he 2582 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:00,880 kind of gloms onto the stuff 2583 01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:03,360 and you wonder when you draw attention 2584 01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:05,199 to people like that and discuss them 2585 01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,040 endlessly for hours 2586 01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,040 whether or not it's just going to cause 2587 01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,280 people to want to go to the shows or to 2588 01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:13,119 the documentary so right now people will 2589 01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:15,600 be looking on youtube for the serious 2590 01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:17,840 documentary from stephen greer other 2591 01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,840 people will be going to look at the 2592 01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:22,080 channel run by the twins who shall not 2593 01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:23,520 be named 2594 01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:25,360 for the same reason that you know either 2595 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:26,800 they want to see a train wreck or see 2596 01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:29,520 what the fuss is all about 2597 01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,840 i think it should be stephen o'greer i 2598 01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,119 think he's got a wee bit of the 2599 01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:34,880 leprechaun in him 2600 01:42:38,250 --> 01:42:36,400 i think he's got a better the david 2601 01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:38,260 koresh in him 2602 01:42:42,310 --> 01:42:40,719 [Laughter] 2603 01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,320 for listeners who don't know that's the 2604 01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:44,320 that's the branch davidian leader guy 2605 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:48,159 from the waco texas uh shambles i hope 2606 01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:50,320 not i could tell you stories i've known 2607 01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:53,840 stephen for 20 years now tell us a few 2608 01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:57,199 stories 20 years well my favorite 2609 01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:59,040 was one of the first times that i ever 2610 01:43:02,229 --> 01:43:00,719 actually uh 2611 01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:02,239 it was the first time that i ever 2612 01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:04,639 actually was asked by him to 2613 01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,679 to do uh to do anything basically and 2614 01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:08,960 and it was about the third or fourth 2615 01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:11,440 time he had come to creststone colorado 2616 01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:14,480 and this would have been 94.95 2617 01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:17,760 and i was supposed to give a uh 2618 01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,400 a brief uh you know 20 minute half hour 2619 01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:22,719 talk to these really super rich 2620 01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,360 highfalutin socialites and lawrence 2621 01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:28,080 rockefeller's right-hand man uh 2622 01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:30,880 bootsy galbraith sandy wright who funded 2623 01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:32,639 the this the 2624 01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:34,639 best available evidence 2625 01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:35,760 or 2626 01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,440 rockefeller funded the best available 2627 01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,880 evidence document that greer then 2628 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:41,199 appropriated and released prematurely 2629 01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:42,960 but he had all these uh really high 2630 01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:44,800 fluent people there and he wanted me to 2631 01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,719 to give them some information about uh 2632 01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:48,239 the history and 2633 01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,400 and uh and what not about the san luis 2634 01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:52,560 valley where where we were where they 2635 01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,000 were gathered and 2636 01:43:57,669 --> 01:43:55,920 unfortunately being a volunteer fireman 2637 01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:57,679 we had a really bad grass fire that 2638 01:44:02,390 --> 01:43:59,920 morning i had to go out and and fight 2639 01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:02,400 this fire and got caught in the fire and 2640 01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:03,679 got some 2641 01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,800 pretty bad smoke inhalation and uh was 2642 01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:08,960 about a half hour late for my talk and 2643 01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,400 when i came in i just reeked of uh 2644 01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:14,880 grass fire and was my eyes were all red 2645 01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:16,719 and i was kind of choking and coughing 2646 01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:17,679 and 2647 01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:21,920 pretty much figured out greer's uh david 2648 01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,360 koresh tendencies and and so 2649 01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:27,280 kind of a little bit undiplomatically 2650 01:44:30,470 --> 01:44:28,800 and a little bit out of character i 2651 01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:30,480 would i would add um 2652 01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:32,480 i got up there and uh gave my little 2653 01:44:36,629 --> 01:44:34,560 presentation and then you know greer 2654 01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:36,639 tried to appropriate it as he has a 2655 01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,639 habit of doing it and i said you know 2656 01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:40,400 the last thing i want to mention to 2657 01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:42,480 everybody and this is really important 2658 01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,400 and that is stephen 2659 01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:46,560 your message is way more important than 2660 01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:48,560 you are oh but djibouti i said no 2661 01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,560 stephen stephen you didn't hear me and i 2662 01:44:53,350 --> 01:44:52,080 said it three times in front of all 2663 01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:53,360 these people 2664 01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:54,480 and we're going to have to say this a 2665 01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:56,480 couple of times too 2666 01:45:02,870 --> 01:44:59,040 yes here we are catching up we're 2667 01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,880 talking shop what a special episodes 2668 01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:04,480 and of course if you want to get in 2669 01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,719 touch with us check us out on twitter 2670 01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:08,880 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is also 2727 01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:22,080 offering a set of fluoride and arsenic 2728 01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:24,960 filters for only 39.99 that's over 30 2729 01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:26,960 percent off the retail price call the 2730 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,189 that's 2731 01:47:46,870 --> 01:47:37,590 or order 1-877-886-3653 at goburkey.com 2732 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:50,070 welcome back to the paracast the gold 2733 01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,760 standard of paranormal radio 2734 01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:55,040 and now 2735 01:48:01,830 --> 01:47:58,410 here's gene steinberg 2736 01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:03,990 with gene and chris and goggs makai 2737 01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:05,840 we're talking about the state of ufo 2738 01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,080 research and some of the sideshow 2739 01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:10,480 carnival barkers like the twins who 2740 01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:12,800 shall not be named our official new name 2741 01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:15,600 for them and the certain dr greer and 2742 01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,920 you're trying to emphasize something 2743 01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:20,159 when you did this presentation before 2744 01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:21,040 him 2745 01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:24,320 that it's the information not the guy i 2746 01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:26,000 i really did i made a point of saying 2747 01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,639 that and and his second in command uh 2748 01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:30,800 was at that point it turned into one of 2749 01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:33,360 my best friend sherry adamak who we uh 2750 01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:35,600 tragically lost to galloping melanoma in 2751 01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:38,159 1998 but one thing i want to point out 2752 01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:41,199 about uh about the good doctor or 2753 01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:42,960 i use that term loosely you know every 2754 01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:46,159 year i think now for 17 18 19 years he's 2755 01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:47,679 been doing his ambassadors to the 2756 01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:50,320 universe training in crestone in fact i 2757 01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:52,560 think that was the first place uh that 2758 01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,360 he started giving these trainings and 2759 01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:57,440 he's been back every year well the first 2760 01:49:01,669 --> 01:48:59,679 five or six years that he did these 2761 01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:01,679 trainings in the san luis valley and 2762 01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:04,400 crestron i find it very ironic and 2763 01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:05,280 almost 2764 01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:07,840 comic that they do these trainings and 2765 01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:09,760 be flashing their lights and playing the 2766 01:49:14,550 --> 01:49:12,800 cuckoo cuckoo the crop circle uh sounds 2767 01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,560 and flashing their lights and doing all 2768 01:49:18,149 --> 01:49:16,719 this coherent thought sequencing blading 2769 01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:18,159 their hands on the doctor and in the 2770 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,239 whole deal and all through the 90s it 2771 01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,320 was really weird we would have sightings 2772 01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:24,239 that would happen the same night there 2773 01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,320 would be a number of reports and this 2774 01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:28,239 one this happened actually in several 2775 01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:30,000 consecutive years yet there were no 2776 01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,639 reports uh worth note 2777 01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:35,040 where c city was doing their their 2778 01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:37,280 trainings and calling in the the aliens 2779 01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,119 and at one point after about the third 2780 01:49:43,590 --> 01:49:41,679 or fourth year of this i i i asked him i 2781 01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,600 said stephen are you sure you're giving 2782 01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:46,080 out correct instructions on how to get 2783 01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:48,159 to you it's like you're giving out bad 2784 01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,840 directions or something because they're 2785 01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,280 showing up everywhere but where you want 2786 01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:53,760 them to show up i find it uh kind of 2787 01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,159 ironic that you would have uh you know 2788 01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:58,159 sightings being reported around the 2789 01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:00,239 valley everywhere but where he was and 2790 01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:02,239 he was charging people to be there maybe 2791 01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,960 that's yeah maybe aliens are allergic 2792 01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:06,480 you see the aliens do not have a 2793 01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:09,040 monetary system so yeah my problem with 2794 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,760 greer is this charging money to point 2795 01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:13,679 lasers to the sky 2796 01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:16,480 it's so against the kind of 2797 01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:19,360 yeah disclose the truth to all kind of 2798 01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:22,480 ethos that he tries to show to people 2799 01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:24,560 you know he thinks that there should be 2800 01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:27,040 a democratization of the information 2801 01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:31,199 about the aliens ufos whatever 2802 01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:32,080 and 2803 01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:34,000 you know he just seems to be out to 2804 01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:36,639 profit for and he charges a lot as well 2805 01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:38,880 for what is basically standing out in 2806 01:50:44,149 --> 01:50:41,280 the open in you know it's not even his 2807 01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:44,159 land as far as i know and pointing 2808 01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,239 lasers in the sky and you know is it 2809 01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,159 isn't it illegal to point lasers at 2810 01:50:52,870 --> 01:50:50,239 flying objects anyway 2811 01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,880 that's a good point but but what i my 2812 01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:54,880 biggest problem is number one who 2813 01:50:58,149 --> 01:50:56,080 elected him 2814 01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:58,159 mankind's or humankind's ambassador to 2815 01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:59,280 the universe 2816 01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:00,880 where does he get off training other 2817 01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,159 people to be 2818 01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:04,159 ambassadors to the universe uh you know 2819 01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:05,679 you're talking about democratization 2820 01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,400 here uh who elected him you know that 2821 01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:10,400 that's the problem i have the hubris and 2822 01:51:14,070 --> 01:51:11,840 the and the 2823 01:51:16,629 --> 01:51:14,080 you know just this megalo 2824 01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,639 messianic type quality that he obviously 2825 01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,320 has that that that's what bothers me the 2826 01:51:22,390 --> 01:51:20,400 most yeah if there's suckers out there 2827 01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,400 they're going to pay money to have him 2828 01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:24,000 train them to be ambassadors to the 2829 01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:26,080 universe then you got to take your hat 2830 01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:27,520 off to the guy i mean he lives pretty 2831 01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:30,080 well he's got a huge house you know he's 2832 01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:32,159 he's pretty well off so you know if 2833 01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:33,040 people 2834 01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:35,119 need that in their lives you know who 2835 01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,440 are we to question uh the validity of 2836 01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:39,679 their decision making but the hubris and 2837 01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,000 the and the the messianic quality that 2838 01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,239 he has to assume that he can train 2839 01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:47,280 ambassadors to the universe and that he 2840 01:51:50,629 --> 01:51:49,280 is the ambassador 2841 01:51:52,390 --> 01:51:50,639 of humankind 2842 01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:52,400 representing us 2843 01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:55,119 lowly humans here on planet planet earth 2844 01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:57,760 that to me is just it's 2845 01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:00,719 it's inexcusable i'm sorry yeah somebody 2846 01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:03,280 pointed out in the forums um 2847 01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:05,920 the serious documentary how was it 2848 01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,480 funded because it wasn't out of his 2849 01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:10,639 pocket he did one of those internet 2850 01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,840 funding organizations where you know you 2851 01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:16,320 put up a site and and and it's it's a 2852 01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:18,080 donation i forget what they call them 2853 01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,199 there's there's a bunch of them out 2854 01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,440 there now that uh that you can set up to 2855 01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,199 to fund projects 2856 01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:25,040 uh it's pretty ingenious the way they do 2857 01:52:29,430 --> 01:52:27,440 it but yeah he uh raised uh quite a bit 2858 01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:29,440 of money and i mean greer's been 2859 01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:32,000 thumping you know his particular cult of 2860 01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:34,320 personality uh routine for quite some 2861 01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:36,320 time he's got quite a name for himself 2862 01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:38,800 uh in some circles especially the new 2863 01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:39,679 age 2864 01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:44,800 uh he's very well considered he is a 2865 01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:48,080 very magnetic uh guy he does have uh a 2866 01:52:51,189 --> 01:52:49,040 very 2867 01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:51,199 kind of pound in the pulpit sort of 2868 01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:53,760 rousing the troops style uh when he when 2869 01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:56,320 he presents you know he's got a command 2870 01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:58,400 of the english language and you know he 2871 01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:00,080 always uh when you when you try to get 2872 01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:02,960 him into you know a tight corner and try 2873 01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:05,599 to pin him down he'll invariably make 2874 01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,119 the comment something to the king of 2875 01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:09,679 well i've been on the ships and i know 2876 01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:12,480 that's the kind of attitude he has a lot 2877 01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,719 of people don't realize that greer 2878 01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,560 considers himself to be an experiencer 2879 01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,400 when he was 18 he was brought aboard the 2880 01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,719 ships and you know there's a whole 2881 01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,560 kind of story there that the average 2882 01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,719 person that knows about greer 2883 01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,320 doesn't have an inkling about but but 2884 01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:28,719 he's he's on some divine mission some 2885 01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:29,520 some 2886 01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:33,599 you know uh inspired messianic path that 2887 01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:36,480 one just has to i i'd go as far as to 2888 01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:39,119 say that i couldn't say which but it 2889 01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,360 wouldn't surprise me to find out that he 2890 01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,199 actually has some 2891 01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:45,840 kind of mental illness because 2892 01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:47,280 you know this this 2893 01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,320 messiah complex thing i think he he 2894 01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:52,800 really does think that he's almost been 2895 01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:56,159 chosen to to lead the people into the 2896 01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:58,239 new age of finding out what the truth 2897 01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:00,239 about all this is 2898 01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,880 and you know i think he's just he's a 2899 01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:05,040 cheeky so-and-so and that he's he gets 2900 01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,520 you know some youtube method of funding 2901 01:54:12,070 --> 01:54:09,360 his documentary so it's not out of his 2902 01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:12,080 own pocket but then he charges for it as 2903 01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:14,560 well he charges however many thousand 2904 01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:16,320 dollars to be 2905 01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:18,800 usually in the world when you take money 2906 01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:21,040 from people to give them instruction and 2907 01:54:25,669 --> 01:54:23,199 stuff usually you need bags of 2908 01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:25,679 experience or some kind of qualification 2909 01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:28,159 that says you can train people in 2910 01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:30,800 whatever you know grade 8 piano teaching 2911 01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:33,199 or whatever but you know who appointed 2912 01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:36,400 him the this you know ambassador trainee 2913 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:39,040 what how did he get to that position in 2914 01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:42,000 his own mind i mean how does he feel did 2915 01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:43,840 he think that he was programmed to do 2916 01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:46,800 this from his experience from age 18 i 2917 01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:49,040 don't know but i i think there's stuff 2918 01:54:55,030 --> 01:54:51,760 going on in his head that is utterly 2919 01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:55,040 fantastical it's a fantasy but he 2920 01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:57,440 either believes it or he is kind of 2921 01:55:02,149 --> 01:54:59,599 acting it very well and if he's acting 2922 01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:02,159 it very well it just makes him even more 2923 01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:04,880 of a money grabber and a fraud you know 2924 01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:07,280 here's the key here he's a public figure 2925 01:55:10,790 --> 01:55:09,280 so we can call him that and he's not 2926 01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:10,800 going to sue us 2927 01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:12,639 i hope 2928 01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:14,639 but seriously speaking here 2929 01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:16,719 the issue here is you do not need a 2930 01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:19,440 license to be a ufo investigator 2931 01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:21,920 you do not need a license to 2932 01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:24,960 have people pay money to go out on ufo 2933 01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:27,360 exploratory expeditions yeah but you 2934 01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,119 need a license to do it at a park in 2935 01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:31,920 north carolina where he got busted and 2936 01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:34,159 fined because he didn't have a license 2937 01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:36,800 to to do a commercial operation 2938 01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:39,199 on uh on i think it was a state uh state 2939 01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:41,119 park in north carolina if 2940 01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:42,880 i you might want to check those facts 2941 01:55:47,589 --> 01:55:45,599 but i do recall a couple years ago he he 2942 01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,599 was busted because somebody didn't file 2943 01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:49,119 the proper paperwork and if they had 2944 01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:50,159 they wouldn't have allowed him to do 2945 01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,400 what he was doing you know there there 2946 01:55:56,229 --> 01:55:54,560 are some weak links in the chain there 2947 01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:56,239 but the weakest link 2948 01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:58,719 is greer's absolute 2949 01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:00,480 positive 2950 01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:01,840 you know just 2951 01:56:05,030 --> 01:56:04,239 thump the table assertion 2952 01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:05,040 that 2953 01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:08,320 ets are absolutely benevolent there is 2954 01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:11,760 no record of anybody ever being harmed 2955 01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:13,840 by ufos or by any sort of 2956 01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:16,239 extraterrestrials and anybody that's 2957 01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,719 done even the slightest bit of of 2958 01:56:24,070 --> 01:56:21,360 of digging into this whole phenomenon 2959 01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:24,080 couldn't talk about the cases around 2960 01:56:27,910 --> 01:56:26,080 kolara around the mouth of the amazon in 2961 01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:27,920 the late 70s early 80s where people were 2962 01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:29,199 actually killed 2963 01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:30,080 uh 2964 01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:31,679 all you have to do is read jacques 2965 01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:33,760 valley's book confrontations 2966 01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:36,159 uh there's there's a case after case 2967 01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,159 after case where people 2968 01:56:43,430 --> 01:56:40,159 were harmed and were injured in some 2969 01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:43,440 cases in rare cases but even potentially 2970 01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:44,400 killed 2971 01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:45,199 by 2972 01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,000 what greer would call alien technology 2973 01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:50,080 and his assertion that all abductions 2974 01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:52,239 are done by the military these are these 2975 01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:54,400 are blanket statements that he makes he 2976 01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:57,360 says there is no evidence whatsoever the 2977 01:57:01,589 --> 01:57:00,159 ets are or anything but benevolent space 2978 01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:01,599 brothers here to solve all our problems 2979 01:57:08,070 --> 01:57:05,440 and save us yes vt is here to help us 2980 01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:08,080 rather than to harm us that was a phrase 2981 01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:09,040 i think 2982 01:57:13,510 --> 01:57:11,040 i heard a long time ago in one of the 2983 01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:13,520 more sarcastic comments from the late 2984 01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:15,280 great barker and that goes back probably 2985 01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:19,679 to the 1950s or 1960s the ufo visitors 2986 01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:22,000 are here to help us rather than to harm 2987 01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:24,880 us and believing that may make us more 2988 01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:27,599 vulnerable if they were here to harm us 2989 01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,159 who knows we have gogs makai joining us 2990 01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:32,719 this week with gene and chris you're in 2991 01:57:37,130 --> 01:57:41,350 [Music] 2992 01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,550 is there a secret ufo agenda do strange 2993 01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:46,639 creatures from the darkest corners of 2994 01:57:52,310 --> 01:57:49,119 the mind roam the earth is there 2995 01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:52,320 evidence for mind control time travel or 2996 01:57:57,030 --> 01:57:54,960 devious government conspiracies 2997 01:58:00,390 --> 01:57:57,040 find out the inside scoop on the latest 2998 01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:00,400 conspiracies paranormal activity and 14 2999 01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:02,800 phenomena when you subscribe to tim 3000 01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,040 beckley's conspiracy journal 3001 01:58:10,070 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at 3103 02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:03,030 our final segments on the power cast 3104 02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:05,119 with gene and chris and goggs mackay 3105 02:02:09,750 --> 02:02:07,360 we're talking about this serious ufo 3106 02:02:11,990 --> 02:02:09,760 documentary which may not be serious 3107 02:02:14,390 --> 02:02:12,000 from stephen greer now chris i want to 3108 02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:14,400 ask you parenthetically to disclosure 3109 02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:17,119 and everything you're going to be in the 3110 02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:19,840 washington dc area at this national 3111 02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:22,000 press club event which will be heard 3112 02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:23,760 this coming week and form by the way the 3113 02:02:27,990 --> 02:02:25,520 basis of next week's episode of the 3114 02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:28,000 power cast tell us more i've been 3115 02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:30,639 loosely associated with ronald james 3116 02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:32,800 films for a number of years or going on 3117 02:02:37,270 --> 02:02:34,960 six six and a half seven years ron used 3118 02:02:39,510 --> 02:02:37,280 to have a studio here in the sedona area 3119 02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:39,520 i was one of his editors camera people i 3120 02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:41,520 really kind of helped him get a foot 3121 02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,239 into the whole realm of the paranormal 3122 02:02:49,030 --> 02:02:46,719 and ufology and and doing documentary 3123 02:02:50,310 --> 02:02:49,040 work and helping him network within this 3124 02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:50,320 particular 3125 02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:52,480 incestuous and small community he moved 3126 02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:54,880 out to la and uh one of the people that 3127 02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:57,840 uh i introduced him to and he struck up 3128 02:03:01,910 --> 02:02:59,440 a bit of a relationship with is was 3129 02:03:05,270 --> 02:03:01,920 stephen bassett stephen has gotten 1.2 3130 02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:05,280 million dollars from some unknown source 3131 02:03:09,350 --> 02:03:07,679 supposedly a private individual who uh 3132 02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:09,360 he has some sort of business 3133 02:03:12,310 --> 02:03:10,480 relationship 3134 02:03:14,709 --> 02:03:12,320 i don't know how stephen bassett was 3135 02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:14,719 able to drum up that kind of cash but 3136 02:03:19,990 --> 02:03:17,280 about half of that is being spent on a 3137 02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:20,000 series of mock hearings or a mock 3138 02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:21,840 hearing with a series of witnesses 3139 02:03:27,430 --> 02:03:23,119 coming forward in the national press 3140 02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:27,440 club and he's paid i think five or 3141 02:03:30,950 --> 02:03:27,760 men six 3142 02:03:33,910 --> 02:03:30,960 women twenty thousand dollars a piece to 3143 02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,920 play the parts of themselves and kind of 3144 02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:35,599 act out what it would be like to 3145 02:03:40,229 --> 02:03:37,360 actually have congressional hearings on 3146 02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:40,239 the ufo disclosure subject i've been uh 3147 02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:42,239 asked by ron james who's been hired to 3148 02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:44,400 document the event and i think work on a 3149 02:03:48,149 --> 02:03:45,760 documentary 3150 02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:48,159 based on these hearings to actually on 3151 02:03:52,709 --> 02:03:51,360 the go live one shot four camera shoot 3152 02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:52,719 i'm not sure what my job's gonna be i 3153 02:03:55,030 --> 02:03:53,920 have a feeling i'm gonna be operating 3154 02:03:57,510 --> 02:03:55,040 one of the more difficult camera 3155 02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:57,520 positions i don't think i'm doing audio 3156 02:04:01,910 --> 02:03:59,920 i may be doing the switcher because it's 3157 02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:01,920 going to be a live switched event i do 3158 02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:03,760 urge everybody who's interested in the 3159 02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:05,760 subject i think it's a good idea it'd be 3160 02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:07,760 interesting to see how 3161 02:04:11,589 --> 02:04:10,320 these ex-congress people handle some of 3162 02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:11,599 the witnesses that are going to be 3163 02:04:16,149 --> 02:04:14,400 presented i i think as an exercise of 3164 02:04:17,669 --> 02:04:16,159 head scratching sort of 3165 02:04:18,709 --> 02:04:17,679 mock drama i think it's going to be 3166 02:04:21,270 --> 02:04:18,719 interesting 3167 02:04:22,629 --> 02:04:21,280 whether it actually has any sort of 3168 02:04:24,070 --> 02:04:22,639 impact on 3169 02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:24,080 people that are currently sitting in 3170 02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:26,239 congress is highly doubtful in my mind 3171 02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:28,960 whether the whole disclosure of an alien 3172 02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:30,719 presence here is ever going to happen 3173 02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:32,960 from the u.s government is is highly 3174 02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:34,480 doubtful in my mind and i think as a 3175 02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:36,400 pipe dream but it's going to be an 3176 02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:39,280 interesting four-day exercise to see how 3177 02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:41,119 this thing unfolds i'm going to be right 3178 02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,520 there helping film it and then hopefully 3179 02:04:47,189 --> 02:04:45,440 working in the post-production process 3180 02:04:50,229 --> 02:04:47,199 what i'm going to try to do gene is when 3181 02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:50,239 i'm there i'm going to land somebody 3182 02:04:56,149 --> 02:04:53,040 possibly one of these congress people or 3183 02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:56,159 maybe a series of of potential guests 3184 02:04:59,830 --> 02:04:57,599 and do a show 3185 02:05:02,070 --> 02:04:59,840 talking about these hearings and 3186 02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:02,080 addressing the whole subject of congress 3187 02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:04,880 and the subject of ufo disclosure that's 3188 02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:07,360 kind of what's uh in the works for me 3189 02:05:11,109 --> 02:05:09,119 it's going to be interesting i've been 3190 02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:11,119 asked to wear casual business clothes of 3191 02:05:15,270 --> 02:05:13,360 which i own none well i've got a lot of 3192 02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:15,280 hawaiian shirts too so maybe i'll i'll 3193 02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:17,360 come as blake cousins i mean one of the 3194 02:05:22,510 --> 02:05:19,440 twins that shall not be mentioned or 3195 02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:22,520 named is it known if any of these 3196 02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:25,360 ex-congressmen stroke women whatever 3197 02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:27,920 were were any of them interested in the 3198 02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:30,480 ufo topic beforehand or have they been 3199 02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:32,560 kind of picked fresh just because 3200 02:05:36,470 --> 02:05:34,480 they're available and they're they're 3201 02:05:37,990 --> 02:05:36,480 like test subjects to see if they can be 3202 02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:38,000 convinced or 3203 02:05:41,589 --> 02:05:39,520 you know well that's a really good 3204 02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:41,599 question uh gordon i'm not sure about 3205 02:05:47,109 --> 02:05:44,480 that i think possibly one or two 3206 02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:47,119 have a passing interest in the subject 3207 02:05:51,189 --> 02:05:48,800 but i think the twenty thousand dollars 3208 02:05:53,589 --> 02:05:51,199 i think is probably the main inducement 3209 02:05:55,589 --> 02:05:53,599 oh oh i see 3210 02:05:57,350 --> 02:05:55,599 getting five six grand a day just to sit 3211 02:05:59,990 --> 02:05:57,360 there and pretend like you're you're a 3212 02:06:02,070 --> 02:06:00,000 congressman talking about ufos uh on 3213 02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:02,080 camera i mean these people need needed 3214 02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:04,880 to be bought and quite a sizable chunk 3215 02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:07,119 of changes being spent on just making it 3216 02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:09,280 appear legit you see a lot of people who 3217 02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:11,840 leave congress they join lobbyist 3218 02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:13,440 organizations it gives them credibility 3219 02:06:17,589 --> 02:06:15,440 but those are the high profile people in 3220 02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:17,599 congress are these high-profile people 3221 02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:20,560 or just somebody who got elected for one 3222 02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,400 or two terms and they're gone 3223 02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:24,560 well a couple of them actually i think 3224 02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:25,360 are 3225 02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:27,280 you know long-time uh sitting members i 3226 02:06:30,310 --> 02:06:28,719 think there's one or two that are that 3227 02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,320 were only there for two or four years 3228 02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:32,320 but you know i just briefly kind of 3229 02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:34,560 looked at resumes and and what have you 3230 02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:36,320 and there are a couple that that were 3231 02:06:40,629 --> 02:06:38,560 returning term after term we're not 3232 02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:40,639 talking about big you know household 3233 02:06:45,270 --> 02:06:42,800 names or anything we're not talking 3234 02:06:47,510 --> 02:06:45,280 you know tom delay or you know you could 3235 02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:47,520 you could name any any number larry 3236 02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:49,920 craig you know podesta guy would have 3237 02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:52,000 been good well the problem would also be 3238 02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:54,639 here that if they are high profile 3239 02:06:58,229 --> 02:06:56,480 political figures they would not want to 3240 02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:58,239 touch this with a 10-foot pole so you 3241 02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:00,079 have to get people who maybe are in the 3242 02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:04,000 second string of ex-members of congress 3243 02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:05,679 i'm going to have a lot of information 3244 02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:06,960 before this thing is through i'm going 3245 02:07:10,390 --> 02:07:08,400 to find out who these people are how 3246 02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:10,400 they were induced to do this what their 3247 02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:12,880 motivations are in terms of the subject 3248 02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,520 rather than the uh the remuneration but 3249 02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:17,199 but i think it is uh it is an 3250 02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:19,760 interesting idea i think it's a lot of 3251 02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:21,840 just grandstanding and 3252 02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:24,320 play acting to spend all this money and 3253 02:07:28,709 --> 02:07:26,320 retain this particular various steam 3254 02:07:32,229 --> 02:07:28,719 location to do this and to me i do i 3255 02:07:34,390 --> 02:07:32,239 don't see any usefulness uh looking at 3256 02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:34,400 it uh as as something that's geared 3257 02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:36,560 toward an end result i i don't think it 3258 02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:38,400 has a snowball's chance in hell of 3259 02:07:43,109 --> 02:07:40,320 convincing congress how easy and how 3260 02:07:45,189 --> 02:07:43,119 important it is to do this uh for real 3261 02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:45,199 as everyone that out there listens to 3262 02:07:50,229 --> 02:07:48,400 the para cast knows i'm i'm really very 3263 02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:50,239 dubious about the whole 3264 02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:52,639 concept of disclosing something that 3265 02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:54,320 that i have a hunch the government is 3266 02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:56,159 more confused about than we are the 3267 02:07:59,750 --> 02:07:57,920 government is never going to admit that 3268 02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:59,760 they aren't in control that they don't 3269 02:08:04,069 --> 02:08:01,840 know it's just intimate to what they're 3270 02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:04,079 about they're about being all-knowing 3271 02:08:07,830 --> 02:08:05,440 they're about being 3272 02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:07,840 totally in control just look at the uh 3273 02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:10,480 marshall lost esque lockdown around 3274 02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,960 watertown uh last week or a week and a 3275 02:08:16,709 --> 02:08:14,719 half ago so you know this is going to be 3276 02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:16,719 a very interesting exercise just you 3277 02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:18,880 know as gogs mentioned a rubber necking 3278 02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:20,800 had a car crash but it's going to be 3279 02:08:24,629 --> 02:08:22,320 interesting and and you know i've been 3280 02:08:26,069 --> 02:08:24,639 hired to to do this and i'm going there 3281 02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:26,079 as a video professional but i'm also 3282 02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:28,320 going as a you know an interested uh 3283 02:08:32,390 --> 02:08:30,400 aspiring insider to really get the low 3284 02:08:34,390 --> 02:08:32,400 down scoop on on who the players are in 3285 02:08:36,310 --> 02:08:34,400 this thing what the end purpose is and 3286 02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:36,320 all the machinations that are obviously 3287 02:08:38,950 --> 02:08:37,679 going to have to take place to pull this 3288 02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:38,960 thing off so 3289 02:08:42,709 --> 02:08:40,639 we're going to try to do a show from 3290 02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:42,719 there with some guests involved in the 3291 02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:45,360 process for our next paracast episode 3292 02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:47,840 and uh it starts tomorrow they are 3293 02:08:51,830 --> 02:08:49,760 streaming this live so if you're 3294 02:08:54,149 --> 02:08:51,840 interested in this go to the citizens 3295 02:08:56,149 --> 02:08:54,159 hearing on disclosure website check it 3296 02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:56,159 out i do think it's going to be very 3297 02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:58,079 interesting how this thing actually 3298 02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:59,760 unfolds i'm looking actually looking 3299 02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:01,920 forward to this for a variety of reasons 3300 02:09:05,589 --> 02:09:03,760 and i do urge anybody out there that's 3301 02:09:07,589 --> 02:09:05,599 interested in this subject and in this 3302 02:09:10,069 --> 02:09:07,599 process to tune in and go to the 3303 02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,079 internet site and stream this live it'll 3304 02:09:13,430 --> 02:09:12,000 be monday tuesday wednesday thursday of 3305 02:09:15,109 --> 02:09:13,440 next week should be interesting 3306 02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:15,119 definitely this is going to be a daytime 3307 02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:16,960 thing or is it going to be like from the 3308 02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:19,360 day time to the night time you know i 3309 02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:21,440 haven't been getting given a shooting 3310 02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:23,760 schedule or any sort of any sort of 3311 02:09:28,390 --> 02:09:26,400 itinerary or list or schedule so i i 3312 02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:28,400 really don't know i don't see it going 3313 02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:30,639 for more than a few hours a day i could 3314 02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,880 be wrong again i haven't i'm not privy 3315 02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:34,880 to those details yet i don't know how 3316 02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:36,800 they're actually going to stage this 3317 02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:38,960 when it starts how long it's going to go 3318 02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:41,119 for i should probably 3319 02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:42,960 send out a few emails 3320 02:09:48,149 --> 02:09:44,719 and find out i'll tell you why i have 3321 02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:48,159 the schedule here citizenshearing.org 3322 02:09:51,669 --> 02:09:50,719 and monday you don't want to hear this 3323 02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:51,679 monday 3324 02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:54,639 7 p.m stephen grier and then the serious 3325 02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:56,960 documentary will be on display 3326 02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:59,119 tuesday and this 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02:15:19,360 who shall not be named and we're talking 3455 02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:22,000 about ufo photography now there's a 3456 02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:23,520 question by the way from one of our 3457 02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:24,800 skeptical 3458 02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:27,119 listeners in the forums and maybe chris 3459 02:15:30,550 --> 02:15:28,960 let's bring this up okay 3460 02:15:32,149 --> 02:15:30,560 this is an interesting question which is 3461 02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:32,159 always asked and i'll read it it's from 3462 02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:35,920 angelo so many cameras so few videos why 3463 02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:38,639 did we get so many great shots from so 3464 02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:41,199 many angles of the russian meteor which 3465 02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:42,560 was only seen obviously for a few 3466 02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:45,040 seconds before it crashed they all have 3467 02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:48,000 dashboard cams why don't 3468 02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:51,440 those cameras ever capture ufos but they 3469 02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:54,159 do angelo you just don't go out and look 3470 02:15:59,030 --> 02:15:56,239 for them you don't go out and find them 3471 02:16:02,149 --> 02:15:59,040 most people don't promote themselves 3472 02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:02,159 they don't call up blake uh send their 3473 02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:04,560 tapes and film or whatever still pitches 3474 02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:08,159 into a third phase of moon or to coast 3475 02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:11,520 to coast or any number of internet uh 3476 02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:13,760 presences out there you would be amazed 3477 02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:15,840 at how many people actually are able to 3478 02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:18,639 capture footage that none of us ever 3479 02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:21,040 hear about and if some of us do 3480 02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:23,440 occasionally it does make it into local 3481 02:16:27,589 --> 02:16:26,000 media regional media and even national 3482 02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:27,599 and international media 3483 02:16:32,950 --> 02:16:30,400 i you know for you to blanket 3484 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:32,960 state that just because uh we've got all 3485 02:16:38,709 --> 02:16:35,760 these camera footage uh these 3486 02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:38,719 you know hood cams or dash cams of of 3487 02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:41,280 this meteor that meteor was a huge 3488 02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:43,120 astronomical event 3489 02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:45,679 and uh ufos tend to be a little bit more 3490 02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:48,160 difficult to pin down they tend to be 3491 02:16:54,790 --> 02:16:50,800 more fleeting they don't tend to to have 3492 02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:54,800 a huge footprint in the sky normally so 3493 02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:57,439 that to me is a non-question i i don't i 3494 02:17:00,469 --> 02:16:59,439 don't see it as being valid there are 3495 02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:00,479 tons 3496 02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:05,040 all around the world 3497 02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:06,880 it's just i'm sure most of it we're just 3498 02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:08,719 never going to hear about because 3499 02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:10,960 because of the obvious giggle factors 3500 02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:13,200 people don't think it's important 3501 02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:14,800 people just want to show it to their 3502 02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:16,880 friends you don't know you don't know 3503 02:17:21,349 --> 02:17:18,639 that that's the case so uh that's that's 3504 02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:21,359 my answer hey chris yeah i you you've 3505 02:17:27,110 --> 02:17:23,280 touched on something that i think is a 3506 02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:27,120 brilliant point if you take 100 people 3507 02:17:33,910 --> 02:17:30,080 who maybe accidentally you know 3508 02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:33,920 recorded a ufo sighting and you take 100 3509 02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:35,920 people who have gone to the bother of 3510 02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:37,359 making a hoax 3511 02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:39,920 100 of the hoaxers are going to 3512 02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:42,000 publicize it put it out there but 3513 02:17:46,549 --> 02:17:43,840 there's nothing to say that anywhere 3514 02:17:48,230 --> 02:17:46,559 near that number of the genuine ones are 3515 02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:48,240 even going to be passed on to anyone 3516 02:17:52,790 --> 02:17:50,319 else for all the reasons outlined so 3517 02:17:55,990 --> 02:17:52,800 you've got a very big discrepancy 3518 02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:56,000 between the motivation of yeah that's 3519 02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:57,359 why there's so many folks because if 3520 02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:58,880 you're going to go to the bother of 3521 02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:01,920 making a hoax you want it to be seen but 3522 02:18:06,790 --> 02:18:04,719 not everyone wants their ufo sighting 3523 02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:06,800 you know out there so people can call 3524 02:18:11,910 --> 02:18:09,439 them you know this and and that so that 3525 02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:11,920 is a big reason why it may be the case 3526 02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,160 well that and he's comparing it to the 3527 02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:16,479 largest object to hit the planet in in a 3528 02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:19,200 hundred years you know the fact that uh 3529 02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:20,639 we have four 3530 02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:23,439 russian dash cam uh camera angles on 3531 02:18:27,429 --> 02:18:24,399 this thing 3532 02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:27,439 and a number of kind of reflections in 3533 02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:30,160 windows from security cameras there were 3534 02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:32,479 18 videos of the 3535 02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:34,880 object hovering over mexico city back in 3536 02:18:38,150 --> 02:18:36,080 92. 3537 02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,160 there is good quality footage out there 3538 02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:40,559 i just seriously doubt that people like 3539 02:18:45,349 --> 02:18:43,439 angelo uh lance moody who i was really 3540 02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:45,359 sad to hear wasn't able to make it on 3541 02:18:49,270 --> 02:18:47,519 the show today i don't think these guys 3542 02:18:51,349 --> 02:18:49,280 maybe lance does a little bit more than 3543 02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:51,359 angela does but these guys don't waste 3544 02:18:55,349 --> 02:18:53,280 their time going out looking looking 3545 02:18:57,270 --> 02:18:55,359 through all the draws to find the gems i 3546 02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:57,280 i seriously doubt it and the fact that 3547 02:19:02,070 --> 02:18:59,760 they don't i don't think it's it's fair 3548 02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:02,080 for them to say well we never see any 3549 02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:04,960 good footage it's because he's not going 3550 02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:06,880 out and looking for it you want to go 3551 02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:08,479 get some good footage i'll bet you 3552 02:19:11,750 --> 02:19:10,719 there's at least 30 or 40 good 3553 02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:11,760 quality 3554 02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:13,840 pieces of of evidence 3555 02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:16,639 in in and amongst uh the 600 almost 700 3556 02:19:22,070 --> 02:19:19,120 videos that have been posted at uh the 3557 02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:22,080 site of the two brothers whose names uh 3558 02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:24,160 shall not be mentioned 3559 02:19:28,549 --> 02:19:26,319 those who shall not be named so that's 3560 02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:28,559 my answer and gogs yeah good point yeah 3561 02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:30,479 there are plenty good videos out there 3562 02:19:34,709 --> 02:19:31,679 and there are some of the more 3563 02:19:37,429 --> 02:19:34,719 historical ones like that one um that 3564 02:19:40,309 --> 02:19:37,439 was i believe in monument valley of this 3565 02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:40,319 kind of white object that seems to 3566 02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:42,559 do a quick burst of speed and jumps and 3567 02:19:46,790 --> 02:19:44,160 jumps it's being filmed out of the side 3568 02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:46,800 of a moving car it's a very well-known 3569 02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:49,040 piece of footage but that's just one 3570 02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,439 example but that there are 3571 02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:53,680 good videos out there and i 3572 02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,560 obviously can't claim to know for a fact 3573 02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,720 if all of them are if all of them are 3574 02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:00,399 genuine or not but 3575 02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:03,920 i make up i am interested enough in ufos 3576 02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:06,479 to sit and watch you know an hour an 3577 02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:08,720 hour and a half long documentary that 3578 02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,160 includes videos to go to anonymousfo.com 3579 02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:15,120 and check out their weekly sightings and 3580 02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:17,280 i've even had a look at blake's site 3581 02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,040 third phase of moon stuff 3582 02:20:23,190 --> 02:20:21,200 and i'm fully aware that there's you 3583 02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:23,200 know lots of crap there and lots of 3584 02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:24,399 questionable things or just 3585 02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:26,080 misidentified or 3586 02:20:31,349 --> 02:20:28,560 or whatever but there is good stuff out 3587 02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:31,359 there but you you do have to spend time 3588 02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:32,960 and you know your hit rate it's a bit 3589 02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:35,120 like drilling for oil you know one in 3590 02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:39,120 ten is a one in ten holes drilled 3591 02:20:43,030 --> 02:20:41,040 that would be a good hit rate for oil 3592 02:20:45,190 --> 02:20:43,040 companies for drilling companies and 3593 02:20:47,750 --> 02:20:45,200 it's not going to be even that good for 3594 02:20:49,270 --> 02:20:47,760 ufos but that doesn't mean to say that 3595 02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:49,280 if you you know if you look you're not 3596 02:20:53,030 --> 02:20:51,200 going to find anything but you've got to 3597 02:20:54,389 --> 02:20:53,040 spend the time to go through them it's 3598 02:20:56,389 --> 02:20:54,399 just a fact 3599 02:20:57,190 --> 02:20:56,399 this raises of course the very big issue 3600 02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:57,200 here 3601 02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:59,520 about ufos and ufo photos and it's 3602 02:21:04,070 --> 02:21:01,439 unfortunate in this 3603 02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,080 facebook twitter youtube generation that 3604 02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:06,479 so many people want to post their latest 3605 02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,240 and greatest fakes 3606 02:21:12,469 --> 02:21:10,319 it makes it so difficult 3607 02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,479 to get the real thing or more 3608 02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:14,240 sophisticated 3609 02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:15,520 right so 3610 02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:17,600 you know that's that's also a problem as 3611 02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:19,680 as the the cost of the technology comes 3612 02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:21,680 down and becomes more affordable more 3613 02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:22,960 people are going to be going out buying 3614 02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:25,040 it and playing around with it seeing if 3615 02:21:28,230 --> 02:21:26,240 they can pull the wool over their 3616 02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:28,240 friends eyes and if they can then then 3617 02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:30,399 they may uh you know look for bigger 3618 02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:32,640 fish to to try to fool so it's going to 3619 02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:34,399 be a problem it's going to exponentially 3620 02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:35,920 increase and 3621 02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:38,560 we need to uh i think 3622 02:21:44,230 --> 02:21:41,680 discussing some sort of alternative site 3623 02:21:47,429 --> 02:21:44,240 that uh weeds out the fakes that 3624 02:21:50,630 --> 02:21:47,439 actually places some sort of of 3625 02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:50,640 fairly uh astute analysis 3626 02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:52,720 into the process and possibly rate some 3627 02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:53,680 of these 3628 02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:56,000 footage or or gives them some sort of 3629 02:22:01,110 --> 02:21:58,240 rotten tomatoes like meter or something 3630 02:22:02,790 --> 02:22:01,120 anything that differentiates uh the good 3631 02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:02,800 ones from the questionable ones from 3632 02:22:07,750 --> 02:22:06,160 that it's just obvious uh bad ones you 3633 02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:07,760 know i don't claim to be any sort of 3634 02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:09,840 visual analyst but i do know enough to 3635 02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:10,720 know 3636 02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:16,160 qualities in in these in these videos 3637 02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:18,399 that number one uh 3638 02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:20,240 suggests that they've been manufactured 3639 02:22:25,030 --> 02:22:22,399 and number two suggests that they they 3640 02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:25,040 could be the real thing things like uh 3641 02:22:29,750 --> 02:22:27,040 footage of objects giving off tremendous 3642 02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:29,760 amounts of of energy in heavily 3643 02:22:35,030 --> 02:22:31,680 moisture-laden skies you're gonna have 3644 02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:35,040 some ionization effects and and and 3645 02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:37,760 possibly plasma type effects going on 3646 02:22:43,750 --> 02:22:41,359 uh in in this footage and oftentimes uh 3647 02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:43,760 these billy meyer style 3648 02:22:47,750 --> 02:22:45,840 clips uh just 3649 02:22:49,349 --> 02:22:47,760 you don't you don't have any of the 3650 02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:49,359 propulsion diagnostic type things that 3651 02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:52,080 you would expect to see in these films 3652 02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:52,800 and 3653 02:22:57,030 --> 02:22:54,880 one of the things that's easy to uh kind 3654 02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:57,040 of state here is that people have kind 3655 02:23:02,230 --> 02:22:59,439 of a false in in sort of a 3656 02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,240 sci-fi pop culture view of what ufos 3657 02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:04,479 really are and it's pretty obvious when 3658 02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,640 you see some of these uh hoaxes that 3659 02:23:10,710 --> 02:23:08,160 these people are kind of going off what 3660 02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:10,720 they've seen uh you know in star trek or 3661 02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:12,160 star wars and 3662 02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:14,160 and they don't have a real good sense of 3663 02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:15,680 what actually 3664 02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:18,240 a true foe looks like and oftentimes 3665 02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:19,760 they don't appear 3666 02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:22,000 the way that most people kind of imagine 3667 02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:23,600 they would appear so 3668 02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:24,800 you know it's 3669 02:23:29,429 --> 02:23:26,720 ray stanford is a perfect example of 3670 02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:29,439 somebody who who can point this out and 3671 02:23:34,469 --> 02:23:31,040 i've learned a lot from ray and how to 3672 02:23:36,469 --> 02:23:34,479 analyze images and i do i do think that 3673 02:23:38,790 --> 02:23:36,479 ray is one of our unsung 3674 02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:38,800 you know hero experts out there in this 3675 02:23:42,950 --> 02:23:40,960 particular analytical realm and 3676 02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:42,960 it's really sad to see so many people 3677 02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:44,720 having access to technology trying to 3678 02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,319 misuse it just to pull the wool over 3679 02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:48,479 everybody else's eyes and that's that's 3680 02:23:51,830 --> 02:23:49,920 a sad fact 3681 02:23:54,230 --> 02:23:51,840 and operating in the vain hope 3682 02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:54,240 that they will either become famous or 3683 02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:55,600 just become 3684 02:24:01,349 --> 02:23:57,520 part of the entertainment you see to so 3685 02:24:03,510 --> 02:24:01,359 many people here ufos are entertaining 3686 02:24:05,590 --> 02:24:03,520 and they might well be but we're talking 3687 02:24:07,750 --> 02:24:05,600 about a real phenomenon that we do not 3688 02:24:09,429 --> 02:24:07,760 understand 3689 02:24:10,389 --> 02:24:09,439 and yes i could see the entertainment 3690 02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:10,399 value 3691 02:24:14,870 --> 02:24:12,640 but we still have a mystery to be solved 3692 02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,880 we're trying to solve this mystery with 3693 02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:16,399 gogs makai 3694 02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:18,960 chris o'brien gene steinberg you're in 3695 02:24:33,590 --> 02:24:31,270 are you tired of searching for great 3696 02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:33,600 talk radio something more important 3697 02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:38,080 search no more we are the gcn radio 3698 02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:39,200 network 3699 02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:41,520 if you want to get your website online 3700 02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:44,080 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paranormal radio 3798 02:29:01,510 --> 02:28:59,439 [Music] 3799 02:29:02,950 --> 02:29:01,520 with gene and chris and goggs makai in 3800 02:29:04,389 --> 02:29:02,960 the power cast 3801 02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:04,399 we've been spending our time talking 3802 02:29:08,389 --> 02:29:06,640 about the state of ufo research 3803 02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:08,399 focusing first about 3804 02:29:13,910 --> 02:29:11,280 the twins who shall not be named about 3805 02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:13,920 dr stephen greer former emergency room 3806 02:29:18,870 --> 02:29:17,120 physician whose serious documentary 3807 02:29:21,110 --> 02:29:18,880 has been getting some attention we are 3808 02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:21,120 talking about that event that will be in 3809 02:29:24,790 --> 02:29:23,040 place when you hear the show 3810 02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:24,800 about a citizen's 3811 02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:27,439 set of ufo hearings because congress is 3812 02:29:30,389 --> 02:29:29,359 too busy repealing the health care law 3813 02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:30,399 every week 3814 02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:31,920 i think they've tried to do that 40 3815 02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:33,840 times now the u s congress every week 3816 02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:35,600 they tried to repeal the 3817 02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:37,120 obamacare 3818 02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:38,560 health care law 3819 02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:40,960 instead of concentrating on real events 3820 02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:42,800 of course in the days we had real 3821 02:29:48,070 --> 02:29:46,080 hearings about ufos back in the 1960s 3822 02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:48,080 we got the condon commission 3823 02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:49,600 so that raises the bigger question if we 3824 02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:51,520 get real congressional hearings not just 3825 02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,560 faux hearings not a special public event 3826 02:29:58,550 --> 02:29:56,800 but the real thing in congress 3827 02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:58,560 are we going to just return back to the 3828 02:30:02,230 --> 02:30:00,720 60s get some kind of commission 3829 02:30:04,710 --> 02:30:02,240 investigatory 3830 02:30:07,990 --> 02:30:04,720 agency or organization and then it 3831 02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:08,000 disappears or whitewashes the subject 3832 02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:10,560 i'm amazed it isn't a bigger deal that 3833 02:30:16,389 --> 02:30:13,760 you know it's been we know that for 3834 02:30:17,510 --> 02:30:16,399 instance the condon report was doomed to 3835 02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:17,520 fail 3836 02:30:20,630 --> 02:30:18,960 and 3837 02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:20,640 there are documents out there like the 3838 02:30:24,230 --> 02:30:22,319 twining memo 3839 02:30:27,429 --> 02:30:24,240 so what some people who just think that 3840 02:30:29,750 --> 02:30:27,439 the whole ufo topic is just ridiculous 3841 02:30:31,670 --> 02:30:29,760 well if it's so ridiculous why are there 3842 02:30:35,349 --> 02:30:31,680 so many governments around the world 3843 02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:35,359 have spent money um using military 3844 02:30:39,750 --> 02:30:36,960 officers and men 3845 02:30:41,750 --> 02:30:39,760 you know using their precious time over 3846 02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:41,760 over decades 3847 02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:44,319 um researching this topic you know 3848 02:30:47,830 --> 02:30:46,399 whether we get to know about all of that 3849 02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:47,840 or not but 3850 02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:49,520 you know and there there are few 3851 02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:51,520 governments if any that will actually 3852 02:30:54,550 --> 02:30:53,760 say there's no such thing you know they 3853 02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:54,560 always 3854 02:30:58,309 --> 02:30:56,960 trot out the line about of no defense 3855 02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:58,319 significance 3856 02:31:02,870 --> 02:31:01,040 but i i'm amazed that it isn't 3857 02:31:05,270 --> 02:31:02,880 more widely known that there are 3858 02:31:06,309 --> 02:31:05,280 documents out there that 3859 02:31:08,389 --> 02:31:06,319 prove 3860 02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:08,399 that at least at certain points in 3861 02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:10,880 history at very high levels 3862 02:31:15,190 --> 02:31:13,120 people were admitting there was these 3863 02:31:17,190 --> 02:31:15,200 things in the sky apparently 3864 02:31:21,429 --> 02:31:17,200 intelligently controlled 3865 02:31:22,550 --> 02:31:21,439 and not made by any known humans 3866 02:31:24,389 --> 02:31:22,560 there are these 3867 02:31:26,950 --> 02:31:24,399 so there is i'm not talking about 3868 02:31:30,070 --> 02:31:26,960 smoking gun hasn't proving the whole 3869 02:31:32,309 --> 02:31:30,080 thing about ufos but proving that it's 3870 02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:32,319 not silly in as much that governments 3871 02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:34,640 and militaries have taken an interest 3872 02:31:39,429 --> 02:31:36,560 and also sort of getting back to the 3873 02:31:42,070 --> 02:31:39,439 content report about how you can even 3874 02:31:43,830 --> 02:31:42,080 see and and the cia forget the name of 3875 02:31:45,670 --> 02:31:43,840 the report where they're talking about 3876 02:31:47,349 --> 02:31:45,680 yeah we need to kind of debunk this and 3877 02:31:49,349 --> 02:31:47,359 make it seem silly 3878 02:31:51,910 --> 02:31:49,359 yeah that was the robertson panel yes 3879 02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:51,920 yeah it's a robertson panel so 3880 02:31:56,070 --> 02:31:54,240 there are there are documents out there 3881 02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:56,080 that prove that there has been a genuine 3882 02:31:59,270 --> 02:31:57,120 interest 3883 02:32:01,750 --> 02:31:59,280 at government level 3884 02:32:04,389 --> 02:32:01,760 and also the documents proving that they 3885 02:32:06,469 --> 02:32:04,399 have been trying to make it seem 3886 02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:06,479 ridiculous and 3887 02:32:09,750 --> 02:32:07,840 to me 3888 02:32:11,990 --> 02:32:09,760 you know i'm surprised that's never been 3889 02:32:13,830 --> 02:32:12,000 front page news because 3890 02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:13,840 i'm sure there are a lot of average 3891 02:32:18,630 --> 02:32:16,000 people on the street who don't have an 3892 02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:18,640 active interest in ufos i'm sure a lot 3893 02:32:22,790 --> 02:32:20,399 of these people would be quite surprised 3894 02:32:25,349 --> 02:32:22,800 to know that these documents and these 3895 02:32:27,110 --> 02:32:25,359 statements exist that they were made 3896 02:32:29,429 --> 02:32:27,120 because they think 3897 02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:29,439 they think about ufos are just the way 3898 02:32:33,670 --> 02:32:31,600 they see it on the nine o'clock news 3899 02:32:35,110 --> 02:32:33,680 where you know they play the x-files 3900 02:32:36,790 --> 02:32:35,120 theme and they have the little joke at 3901 02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:36,800 the end and stuff 3902 02:32:40,630 --> 02:32:39,359 i just wonder i just wonder well is it 3903 02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:40,640 worth the effort 3904 02:32:45,190 --> 02:32:43,439 i've tried to not convert friends or 3905 02:32:47,429 --> 02:32:45,200 family whatever but i've tried to point 3906 02:32:49,110 --> 02:32:47,439 out a few things to them about why i'm 3907 02:32:49,990 --> 02:32:49,120 interested because they're absolutely 3908 02:32:52,550 --> 02:32:50,000 not 3909 02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:52,560 and you tell them these little factoids 3910 02:32:56,870 --> 02:32:54,640 and they're like oh really and then it 3911 02:32:59,190 --> 02:32:56,880 just goes out their mind and i can't get 3912 02:33:01,110 --> 02:32:59,200 into the mind of someone who can just 3913 02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:01,120 put that out of their mind or maybe 3914 02:33:05,429 --> 02:33:03,040 that's a deliberate defense mechanism 3915 02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:05,439 because the implications are just so 3916 02:33:08,309 --> 02:33:06,479 enormous 3917 02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:08,319 maybe a lot of people just can't handle 3918 02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:09,760 because they don't want the train of 3919 02:33:13,429 --> 02:33:11,920 thought thinking well if that's true 3920 02:33:15,670 --> 02:33:13,439 then this might be true and this might 3921 02:33:18,550 --> 02:33:15,680 true and oh yeah ignorance is destroys 3922 02:33:20,469 --> 02:33:18,560 everything yes yes exactly slight out of 3923 02:33:23,270 --> 02:33:20,479 mind i mean i was never interested in 3924 02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:23,280 scorpions until i moved into a house 3925 02:33:28,630 --> 02:33:26,479 that was overrun by these little nasty 3926 02:33:30,150 --> 02:33:28,640 suckers that that stung me four times 3927 02:33:31,990 --> 02:33:30,160 and and i'm really interested in 3928 02:33:33,670 --> 02:33:32,000 scorpions now and i've done some 3929 02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:33,680 research into them and i figured out 3930 02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:36,240 ways to try to try to you know keep them 3931 02:33:40,389 --> 02:33:37,840 out of the house and 3932 02:33:42,630 --> 02:33:40,399 you really don't get interested in 3933 02:33:46,070 --> 02:33:42,640 something until it bites you on the ass 3934 02:33:47,670 --> 02:33:46,080 or or you see a siding you have some 3935 02:33:49,910 --> 02:33:47,680 sort of unusual experience that you 3936 02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:49,920 can't explain i did when i was seven 3937 02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:52,720 years old i i i kissed that tar baby at 3938 02:33:58,309 --> 02:33:55,920 an early age um i've i've been cursed or 3939 02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:58,319 blessed uh with that particular um 3940 02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:00,479 experience in others uh in the 3941 02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:03,040 intervening years and and i think a lot 3942 02:34:07,110 --> 02:34:05,120 of it is experiential unless you 3943 02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:07,120 actually have an experience or someone 3944 02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:09,040 close to you that you trust and 3945 02:34:14,469 --> 02:34:11,520 and believe or wholeheartedly has an 3946 02:34:17,349 --> 02:34:14,479 experience it's not going to impact uh 3947 02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:17,359 your lack of a full reality view in this 3948 02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:20,160 regard so i think a lot of it does boil 3949 02:34:23,750 --> 02:34:22,080 down to actually personally having 3950 02:34:25,270 --> 02:34:23,760 experiences or knowing someone close to 3951 02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:25,280 you that's had one 3952 02:34:31,990 --> 02:34:26,880 i was approached after a talk in 3953 02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:32,000 california by a shuttle uh pilot uh who 3954 02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:34,240 said that uh i was surprised number one 3955 02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:35,760 that he was there to listen to my talk 3956 02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:37,920 and i was very uh you know flattered 3957 02:34:41,670 --> 02:34:39,920 that he he enjoyed what i had to say and 3958 02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:41,680 he took the time to talk to me 3959 02:34:45,429 --> 02:34:42,960 afterwards but 3960 02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:45,439 but he said he would never have had any 3961 02:34:49,510 --> 02:34:47,280 interest in this subject 3962 02:34:51,429 --> 02:34:49,520 except for his wife had an incredible 3963 02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:51,439 experience in colorado while driving 3964 02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:53,520 this huge craft flew right over her car 3965 02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:56,399 and she she had an insight for for a 3966 02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:58,399 substantial you know 3967 02:35:01,990 --> 02:35:00,160 minute or two and she got a really good 3968 02:35:04,469 --> 02:35:02,000 look at it and he trusts his wife's 3969 02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:04,479 observational acuity and and and 3970 02:35:08,630 --> 02:35:06,720 believes her uh that she had this 3971 02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:08,640 experience and and that got him thinking 3972 02:35:12,070 --> 02:35:10,319 that maybe there's something to this and 3973 02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:12,080 ever since you know this happened in the 3974 02:35:16,230 --> 02:35:14,399 mid 70s ever since he's had he's had 3975 02:35:18,469 --> 02:35:16,240 kind of a closet fascination with the 3976 02:35:21,590 --> 02:35:18,479 subject hence him turning up at my talk 3977 02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:21,600 in costa mesa a couple of years ago so i 3978 02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:23,920 think a lot of it dogs is experiential 3979 02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:25,680 if people don't experience it if you 3980 02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:27,200 don't get stung by a scorpion you don't 3981 02:35:31,030 --> 02:35:28,800 give them any minds if you don't get bit 3982 02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:31,040 by a rattlesnake or eaten by a lion or 3983 02:35:34,309 --> 02:35:32,560 mauled by one you're not going to have 3984 02:35:36,630 --> 02:35:34,319 any interest in these things except 3985 02:35:39,110 --> 02:35:36,640 maybe peripherally you might consider as 3986 02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:39,120 entertainment or whatever so so that 3987 02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:41,520 that may explain part of it but um i 3988 02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:43,120 think a lot of people 3989 02:35:45,429 --> 02:35:44,000 really 3990 02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:45,439 have their head in the sands when it 3991 02:35:49,590 --> 02:35:47,760 comes to things that that rock and 3992 02:35:52,230 --> 02:35:49,600 change uh potentially change their 3993 02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:52,240 reality view it calls into question 3994 02:35:56,469 --> 02:35:54,319 their their spiritual life their belief 3995 02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:56,479 systems the things that are tangible 3996 02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:58,880 that they can rely on and hold on to if 3997 02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:00,479 these things are rocked and called into 3998 02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:04,000 question or or maybe don't fully explain 3999 02:36:07,590 --> 02:36:05,920 experiences that they have then they 4000 02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:07,600 tend to wake up and start paying 4001 02:36:11,750 --> 02:36:10,399 attention so that's my little rant and 4002 02:36:14,150 --> 02:36:11,760 i'm done 4003 02:36:15,349 --> 02:36:14,160 so chris this coming week you're going 4004 02:36:17,190 --> 02:36:15,359 to be 4005 02:36:19,349 --> 02:36:17,200 recording or one of those 4006 02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:19,359 responsible for the recording of the 4007 02:36:23,830 --> 02:36:21,520 video images of the citizen hearing on 4008 02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:23,840 disclosure this is going to be monday 4009 02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:26,560 april 29th through thursday may 3rd in 4010 02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:28,880 washington dc and if you're interested 4011 02:36:33,550 --> 02:36:30,640 in learning more about what it's about 4012 02:36:35,349 --> 02:36:33,560 you can go ahead and check 4013 02:36:37,309 --> 02:36:35,359 citizenshearing.org 4014 02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:37,319 once again that's 4015 02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:38,880 citizenshearing.org 4016 02:36:44,830 --> 02:36:41,680 it'll feature a lot of the famous 4017 02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:44,840 guiding lights you know in the ufo field 4018 02:36:49,510 --> 02:36:47,280 citizenshearing.org and we hope chris to 4019 02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:49,520 have a few guests on the show who will 4020 02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:50,560 reflect 4021 02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:52,319 the content maybe give us some 4022 02:36:57,190 --> 02:36:54,880 fascinating new insights right yeah i'm 4023 02:36:59,110 --> 02:36:57,200 looking forward to that uh reconnecting 4024 02:37:00,550 --> 02:36:59,120 with some old friends yeah it's going to 4025 02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:00,560 be it's going to be an interesting 4026 02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:02,960 exercise i think again i'm not sure 4027 02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:05,280 exactly what stephen bassett hopes to 4028 02:37:09,750 --> 02:37:07,439 accomplish with this uh maybe inspire 4029 02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:09,760 congress to do the real thing that to me 4030 02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:12,000 is a pipe dream this is about a third 4031 02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:14,720 rail as subject as as uh there has ever 4032 02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:15,520 been 4033 02:37:19,670 --> 02:37:18,479 you know we'll see i'm sure i'll be able 4034 02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:19,680 to collect 4035 02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:22,399 a couple of uh interested uh guests for 4036 02:37:26,230 --> 02:37:24,880 a paracast episode about this subject 4037 02:37:28,790 --> 02:37:26,240 and i look forward to it it's going to 4038 02:37:31,030 --> 02:37:28,800 be fun and i get a chance to visit my my 4039 02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:31,040 old friend ray stanford who's just a few 4040 02:37:34,790 --> 02:37:33,280 minutes outside of the beltway uh i'm 4041 02:37:37,429 --> 02:37:34,800 gonna be able to spend a whole day with 4042 02:37:39,910 --> 02:37:37,439 ray prior to the uh to the load in for 4043 02:37:42,469 --> 02:37:39,920 the event uh at the press club there i'm 4044 02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:42,479 gonna try to twist his arm to uh kind of 4045 02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:44,800 pony up some cool stuff for everybody 4046 02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:47,680 and and uh put the blue birds uh back in 4047 02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:49,280 there on their heels a little bit and 4048 02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:51,520 back in their seats that sounds like fun 4049 02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:53,840 gogs thank you so much for sitting in 4050 02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:56,800 with us hey no worries anytime very good 4051 02:38:01,790 --> 02:37:59,200 want to tell everybody that you can find 4052 02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:01,800 more of what chris o'brien does at 4053 02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,120 ourstrangeplanet.com that's 4054 02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:05,280 ourstrangeplanet.com 4055 02:38:09,990 --> 02:38:08,160 still undergoing renovation and you'll 4056 02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:10,000 soon be able to order his books online 4057 02:38:13,830 --> 02:38:11,359 that should be taken care of in a very 4058 02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:13,840 short period of time you can find us on 4059 02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:16,960 twitter where we are known as what else 4060 02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:19,040 the power cast we are the power cast on 4061 02:38:23,910 --> 02:38:19,920 twitter 4062 02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:23,920 there are two power cast fan clubs 4063 02:38:28,150 --> 02:38:25,760 on facebook and one day we'll figure out 4064 02:38:30,870 --> 02:38:28,160 how to integrate them or go to our web 4065 02:38:33,349 --> 02:38:30,880 portal the powercast.com that is the 4066 02:38:35,030 --> 02:38:33,359 powercast.com and also you can check out 4067 02:38:37,510 --> 02:38:35,040 our other radio show 4068 02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:37,520 about personal technology called the 4069 02:38:40,710 --> 02:38:39,760 tech night owl live 4070 02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:40,720 so 4071 02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:43,359 chris goggs thank you both for making 4072 02:38:49,510 --> 02:38:46,960 this a fun session hey thanks great 4073 02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:49,520 good having you on again dogs onwards 4074 02:39:02,469 --> 02:38:59,510 the powercast featuring jean steinberg 4075 02:39:05,429 --> 02:39:02,479 and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted 4076 02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:05,439 presentation of making the impossible 4077 02:39:11,270 --> 02:39:07,200 incorporated